Potter and Dick,

What you saw as a flaw in my long post could be an oversight on your part. This whole thread had dealt with tribes of the Columbia region, mostly east of the Cascades, thus the unconquered Western Wash. tribes you brought in are not a factor in this discussion. The unfairnesses mentioned were of Col. tributaries such as Icicle Creek and the mainstem Col. Indian springer netting and selling of fish thru May that was far above any "50% of fish deemed harvestable". In fact, it was 100% of fish the NMFS & Col. Tribal Comm. deemed harvestable. ZERO % for sportfishermen that paid for these fish. While it's true that sportsmen get to have dwindling limited sportfishing seasons on some tributaries, so do the Indians. And a lot of good guy Indians that have a sporting attitude do sportfish along side of us! But on top of the utter outright Col. injustice fiasco, how could the Col. Tribal Commission, with reluctant abettance from the NMFS and Wash./Ore. Fish. Dept., then rub very unethical salt in an unfair big wound by allowing Indians to also slaughter stacked up springers by a hatchery gait. Hardly intelligent or just, especially in today's climate. That's why I wondered if the powers within the Tribal Comm. are trying to stir up a modern day uprising, rather than consider cultural healing fairness?? Does anyone reading this thread know them so they can ask them to read and respond to the issues here on this BB? As for W. Wash. Tribes Potter, are they staying within the treaties you mentioned, particularly concerning the taking of salmon & steelhead on the Oly. Pen?? Sure I am among a throng of modern thinking people that dislikes those treaties (you read the credible reasons why in my other long post), whether they were orchestrated by primative dumbshit Euros that don't exist anymore, or not! I am also among many who HATE the cheating abusive overharvest of these fish above treaty provisions! Especially the Indian take of wild native fish. Both are simply indefensible! Now you are welcome Potter or Dick to correct anything that is actually definitively wrong within my posts, and once enlightened I will appologize. Think before you try to correct claims of Indian overharvest issues on the Oly. Pen, because there could be a witness list as long as an Indian net, along with some pictures (I have been told. I don't personally have pictures). What do you say now? And for God's sake, please don't attempt to point out some anchient Euro wrongs trying to justify modern Indian wrongs! For a man that does such will be the fool! ....... By the way, I dislike having to use the labels Indian or Euro or African American. Unfortunately, this society makes it necessary in order to discuss inequities, such as those discussed here, because this society still wrongly makes labeled divisions among us. I don't believe in someone being a Euro or an Indian. Rather, I believe people are either good or bad, right or wrong, honest or not, and especially either fair or a hypocrit. ... Oh, and those that know how to catch fish and those that don't.


[This message has been edited by Fishtick (edited 06-03-2000).]