obsessed-- Good points, I agree with pretty much everything. I was not trying to imply that the dams are not a problem, just questioning the size of their impact. As little as six months ago most people who posted on this subject saw removing dams as the golden nugget. I do believe the dams obviously contribute to smaller runs. However, if overall impact is a smaller percentage of the pie, as I believe, then the question of removing them gets foggier. There are many other economic factors involved in the Columbia and Snake River dams. Many people believe that since they are a problem, regardless of how much, they need to come down. Only when we know exactly what their impact is(not twisting numbers to fit any certain groups overall goals) should a decision be made about their future(God, I sound like a freakin' politician!!). Anyway, I find it hard to believe that if the dams kill millions of smolts every year, and supplemental planting has not substantially increased between run cycles(which it hasn't, it actually continues to erode away), that the drastic increase we are seeing this year would be possible. Thanks for the input, fellas. Good luck today, B-Run.