Wide stance is crucial for starters, don't wipe with Poison Oak leaves. My Uncle is a retired MD and has seen this a couple times. I could wipe 10 times and still have skid marks... grin

It's like trying to get a milkshake out of shag carpeting. moose

Five star thread fo sho. thumbs
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