I believe you. Yeah sure why not? You threw 85 one time no problem. I wasn't arguing that point and I don't care if you did or didn't.

85 is plenty fast with any level of control or movement. The average MLB fastball is currently 92 MPH. That's a fastball, not a cutter at 89, change up at 87, curve at 82 or slider at 80 or any another fookin' pitch that's slower than the current MLB FB average of 92 mph.

Oh and BTW - Chapman has the MLB & World Record for fastest recorded live game pitch at 105.1 mph. Ryan's fastest pitch ever recorded was 100.9 mph, which was the old record at one point. Nobody in the history of mankind has thrown a game pitch at 110 mph.

You don't know what you are talking about (again), but please keep digging away. It's enjoyable placing fact rocks under your chit shovel.