#276276 - 01/14/05 08:35 PM
This can't be good for Gregiore
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River Nutrients
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In todays Seattle PI my favorite liberal columnist, Robert L Jamieson Jr, just rips our new Gov big time. If this is an example of how she will be treated by the press for the next four years she is in trouble. I've also noticed that the Seattle Weekly has been hammering away at her for a couple of weeks now. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/jamieson/207868_robert13.html
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#276277 - 01/14/05 10:32 PM
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Would it really matter who was sitting in the Gov's mansion??? Ripping would occur, one way or 'tother.
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#276279 - 01/15/05 09:18 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 04/04/00
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So ACT, did you feel the same way four years ago when all the problems were showing up in Florida? Or do you only get upset when the Gop's don't come out on top?
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#276281 - 01/15/05 10:28 PM
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Carcass
Registered: 03/08/99
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Tough day at the Boat Show Grandpa???
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#276282 - 01/15/05 10:37 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 04/04/00
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Crooked Democrats. Were there never any crooked Republicans? Like maybe Nixion. If the system is broke then it needs to be fixed.
There have been some problems found. But in order to say there was fraud involved at the county level, you must include the canvesing board. And that included one Republican. So is he crooked also.
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#276284 - 01/15/05 11:07 PM
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 11/25/02
Posts: 228
Loc: Port Townsend, WA
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Originally posted by BW: So ACT, did you feel the same way four years ago when all the problems were showing up in Florida? Or do you only get upset when the Gop's don't come out on top? Yes I did feel the same way four years ago only thing is the the Democraps didn't succede in their attempts to steal that one as they did in this one here in Washington. And oh for your information I don't nor have I ever voted a straight party ticket although with shinanigans played by the democraps and looking at their leadership and/or spokesmen it makes me sick to think that I was ever associated with that party as a registered voter. Look at what you've got for leadership a Felon who drowned his brother's girl friend in his Oldsmobile, a preacher who can't keep his pecker in his pants, a Ex-President who's an impeached pedifile and who burned the American Flag on the Kremlin Steps, and your most recent nominee a Traitor who gave aide and comfort to the enemy and called his fellow comrades in arms a bunch of baby killers during a time of war. An yes after seeing the events of the last four years . I go to bed every night thanking God that Al Bore did not succeed in Florida four years ago , because if he had this country would be up the creek without a paddle.
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#276285 - 01/15/05 11:46 PM
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#276288 - 01/15/05 11:55 PM
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Spawner
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Guys, if a judge declares there was fraud then it will be so. Until then it is all just accusations and opinions.
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#276290 - 01/16/05 01:50 AM
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Originally posted by BW: Guys, if a judge declares there was fraud then it will be so. Until then it is all just accusations and opinions. Then it will be so??? Aren't you forgetting about appeals?
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#276291 - 01/16/05 02:52 AM
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 11/25/02
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Originally posted by pacificnw: Originally posted by BW: Guys, if a judge declares there was fraud then it will be so. Until then it is all just accusations and opinions. Then it will be so??? Aren't you forgetting about appeals? Yep! That's just how Christine won it she and democraps found out how many votes she needed to win it and kept on appealling it until King County could find her enough votes to win it.
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#276293 - 01/16/05 01:40 PM
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
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Anyone who thinks either side is above serious shenagans is simply naive.
Note the Rs were in no way upset over all the "irregularities" when they were ahead. Note the Rs screamed about all the one sides ballot enhancements, yet a R was on that board and he said that in only 22 cases was the board unable to agree and in some of those the vote was recorded for Rossi.
The Rs make a big deal out of dead voters. Last I saw there were less than 20 in King County and the ones that had been investigated were where the spouse of an absentee voter who died after the ballots was sent out, voted for the dead spouse. I read that in one case the dead voter voted for Rossi. Is that an indication of fraud by the Rs?
BOTH parties will do whatever they can to push the election their way. Remember Chris said 42 votes was a tie? Remember when the Rossi camp said that to save us all the problems she should concede? Now the recount shifted the balance and BOTH sides change positions.
There are few honorable folks in this mess. One is Sam Reed the republican Sec. of State who refused to let partisan politics steamroll him. Another was the lone Democrat legislator who voted with the republicans for a recount. Those men seem able to rise above partisan politics to do what they believe to be right.
I voted for Chris but do understand that if I had voted for Rossi I would be damned upset. You Rossi voters need to ask yourselves, would you be this upset if the first two counts went for Chris and the last went for Rossi?
I remember that the Rossi spokesman strongly hinted that they would ask for a hand count if the machine recount went against them. Do any of you think Rossi would have simply conceded if the machine recount were in Chris’s favor by 42 votes?
And how about the ads, sponsored by the building trades council, crying about the marine who threw away his ballot because it arrives so late. Turns out all he had to do was mail it in and his vote would have counted. Not much fraud there. I know that many Rs said if Ds were too dumb to correctly fill out their ballot the votes shouldn’t count. Does that same theory hold for servicemen who didn’t know they could send in their ballot after election day?
We now have no choice but to let the courts work it out. I'm sure that if the Rs lose they will spend the next four years crying about how unfair it all was - just liike the Ds do over the 2000 election. So be it. Life is not always fair.
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#276295 - 01/16/05 07:27 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 04/04/00
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Act, without using any opinions. Prove it.
I also have never voted a streight party ticket. But comments like you just made are nothing but ridicules.
And as for the question about an appeal. I think that would go before a judge also.
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#276296 - 01/16/05 08:40 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/27/02
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Over-re-ACT can't be taken seriously anymore, or considered credible with his hyperbole and misinformation. He'll just have to sit next to that other clown.
But here's some real facts from the state attorney general's office for the democratic-process-hating Rs to peruse:
Dino Rossi led in four of the five counties that the Republicans claim counted more votes than voters.
Eleven of the 31 Republican counties reported a larger percentage change in the vote count than did King County. Four Republican counties reported more than twice as large a change, percentage-wise, as did King County.
The GOP’s major complaint is that Christine Gregoire gained .0708 percent of the votes in King County during the manual recount. However, Rossi gained more than that percentage in 10 Republican counties during the manual recount. Additionally, in five counties that voted Republican, Gregoire gained a higher percentage than she did in King County.
The manual recount produced no change in votes for either candidate in seven counties; the changes were equal in two counties. Rossi gained more votes than Gregoire in 20 of the 30 counties with unequal changes.
And since you're all so concerned with flawless elections, you've no doubt already sent letters to the administration requesting a postponement of elections in Iraq until the polling situation can improve.
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