#486051 - 02/08/09 01:08 AM
Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen
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River Nutrients
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FnP Good to finally meet you. Sorry I couldn't stay for the afternoon session.
The Commission is only as good as the information it gets. This Commission has moved well forward of previous Commissions in trying to bring good science into their decision making process. Collectively, they have the knowledge base to get the details out. They can then get staff working towards better management decisions.
Those decisions are not going to be easy and all parties will be impacted to one level or another. You have to start somewhere. It appears the Commission is making that move.
Now, if we don't lose them to some misguided legislation, maybe we see'll science driven resource management.......
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#486250 - 02/09/09 05:10 AM
Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
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From the other thread: A few more highlights form today's meeting in Oly.
Cuts to hatchery production could be in the neighborhood of 10%. Anderson spoke about the need for hatcheries to fuel selective fisheries. But he warned that production of fish would only happen to the extent that such fisheries could be adequately managed/assessed/enforced... which takes money. We're simply NOT going to create fish that we don't have the money to adequately M/A/E when it comes time to fish over them.
Sounds like some areas will be hit a bit harder than others as far as the impending hatchery cuts are concerned. The overall reduction statewide is slated for about 10%, but Grays Harbor is reportedly on the chopping block for a whopping 16%! Ay caramba!
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#486251 - 02/09/09 05:41 AM
Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
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The overall reduction statewide is slated for about 10%, but Grays Harbor is reportedly on the chopping block for a whopping 16%!
Ay caramba! OK that the 16% is the overall reduction to all hatchery production. Again, the proposed cuts will NOT be distributed evenly. Looks like the entire Wynoochee summer run is on the chopping block. I believe that's what a 100% reduction means. Coho production is also targeted for a 40% reduction in most of the programs thru-out the basin, with the notable exception of the Hump which is only slated for a 15% reduction. The fiscal realities of our current economic crisis. Too bad we didn't just take a little better care of our wild runs. Nothing like natural rivers and their wild spawners making fish for free.
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#486255 - 02/09/09 09:11 AM
Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen
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River Nutrients
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Impacts of warming will hit here Climate Change is already showing detrimental effects to wildlife in coastal regions of the Pacific Northwest, and it could happen on Grays Harbor sooner than first thought unless lawmakers take steps to prevent it, according to Doug Howell, regional executive director of the National Wildlife Foundation. http://www.thedailyworld.com/articles/2009/02/08/local_news/01news.txt
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#486271 - 02/09/09 11:33 AM
Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen
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River Nutrients
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You tell 'em Aunty!
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#486709 - 02/10/09 02:16 PM
Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen
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Returning Adult
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Everyone has there own "take" on this climate change thing.
All I can say is I would not want to own a home or a property that is right near sea level. Say what you will about what climate change is or isn't and what caused it or did not... but the salt water is rising my friends. Those of us in the twilight of our years may not give a hoot. Those that have 40-60 years to live should be VERY concerned.
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#486713 - 02/10/09 02:35 PM
Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen
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River Nutrients
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GH is just a part of the larger picture. IMHO, Harvest Management is just getting all they can until the 2012 planet alignment of the Winter solstace... Time for harvest reform.
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#486827 - 02/10/09 07:52 PM
Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen
[Re: eyeFISH]
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
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Looks like the entire Wynoochee summer run is on the chopping block. I believe that's what a 100% reduction means.
Coho production is also targeted for a 40% reduction in most of the programs thru-out the basin, with the notable exception of the Hump which is only slated for a 15% reduction.
Put out a full spread of beautiful perfect baits, and what? Nearly 40 rod hours later and still no bites? Damn... I must be slippin'. Maybe I just need to re-arrange those FOLBE rodholders? Or is it that nobody really cares?
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#486842 - 02/10/09 08:23 PM
Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
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Don't know what the Chehalis plan to raise... chinook? coho? chum? steel? all of the above?
But I have serious doubts they will plant enough coho to make up for the proposed 775,000 basin-wide coho cutbacks planned for WDFW hatcheries?
At a 5% SAR (smolt to adult recruitment), that's nearly 40,000 hatchery coho that WON'T be coming home.
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#487003 - 02/11/09 10:59 AM
Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 03/19/01
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Loc: Rochester WA
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where is the chehalis tribal hatchery located? This is the first I heard of it.
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#487060 - 02/11/09 01:08 PM
Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen
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Three Time Spawner
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i dont think theres been 40,000 coho come back in the chehalis system in yrs..maybe on paper but not in real life..
and them shutting off the summer plant on the nooch is bullshait they dont plant that many anyways im sure they can keep this one going but im sure they wont..
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