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#486703 - 02/10/09 02:00 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: Vic]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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While weed contains more known carcinogens than tobacco, the volume smoked is far less. No medical studies have shown a great risk from smoking weed........other than the latest study which seemed to show an increased incidence of testicular cancer from smoking weed. That study has not, however, been peer-reviewed to any extent.

And if the health concerns are a reason for the illegality of weed, then certainly tobacco and alcohol should also be illegal.

It's this inconsistency that bugs me the most. The government shouldn't pretend to be interested in people's health when killers like tobacco and alcohol are legal. It just doesn't wash.

The seat belt law was put in effect because those who don't buckle up cost the government big money in hospitalization costs. People routinely suffer terrible injuries in wrecks they'd have walked away from had they been wearing their seat belts. IMO, anyone should be able to be exempt from the seat belt law if they sign a waiver/release that says the government shall not be obligated to pay for any health/hospitalization costs due to their failure to wear a belt. You know as well as I do that they're not going to let people lay in the street and bleed, so that's probably not a realistic solution.

Munchies could be considered part of the 'economic stimulus' program. Munchies cost money, and the money spent on Twinkies and Cheese Its keep people working. smile
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#486705 - 02/10/09 02:08 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: ]
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It's real easy. Don't want to wear your seatbelt.....then don't. Just make sure you aren't speeding.
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#486738 - 02/10/09 03:28 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: fish4brains]
Rocket Red Offline
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I never wear my seatbelt or a life jacket thats like betting against my skills. And I got mad skills.
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#486743 - 02/10/09 03:37 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: Rocket Red]
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Society needs to develop the wherewithal to let people bleed out if they choose not to wear their seat belts. Natural and logical consequences are the number one best teacher of all time, and no government will ever improve on that record no matter how much money it pisses down the drain trying.

While there are some risks associated with pot smoking, I think they're far more acceptable than the health problems of smoking tobacco, but I'm biased. I know alcohol is poison too, but my body processes almost an ounce per hour, so I should be OK with a half bottle of wine at dinner for as long as I choose to do so. The biggest risk of pot smoking is the god damn law and the puritans who would send someone to jail for it.

Sg

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#486746 - 02/10/09 03:59 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: Vic]
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Originally Posted By: Vic
So,,, pot doesn't cause or contribute to lung cancer the same as tobacco?


All prior studies are confounded because tobacco smokers that smoked marijuana were used for the tests!

I don't know about the study Dan S is speaking of, but I would never put a lit object that close to my nads or leather donut hole rofl rofl rofl
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#486752 - 02/10/09 04:09 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: Vic]
Illahee Offline
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Originally Posted By: Vic
I seem to remember reading somewhere that there are several of the same carsinogenic chemicals in pot smoke that there are in tobacco smoke. Not to mention several that aren't in tobacco. I know poeple who smoke pot several times a day. I don't see how tobacco could be more evil than pot to a person like that.

Salmo, fundamentaly I agree with you. I am against any law (with in reason) that limits my freedom. I think the part that really chapps my hide is all the effort this state puts into the whole "click it or ticket" fundraisers. As I said before the pot thing really doesn't bother me that much. But sending officers out to look in my car to see that I am strapped in, is in my opinion an invasion of my privacy.


You can eliminate the carcinogenic element of pot by simply switching to a vaporizer.

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#486753 - 02/10/09 04:10 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: Mikespike]
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Loc: Tacoma
Wrong fishforbrains, it is no longer a secondary offense. I got a seat belt violation about a year ago sitting a stop sign on a secondary road. Motorcycle cop turned on to the road, saw I wasn't wearing it and I was suddenly 100+ dollars poorer. I know in Eatonville the cops were writing up anyone they saw. I guess they got an award of some sort if they hit a certian number, which they did. Strange, I also had to wait 6 hours to get a form to fill out for a burglary. Less than a 1/2 mile away I got a $120.00 ticket for supposedly rolling through a stop sign. I think Aunty M is right. The end result of this will be to reduce it to an infraction, then they can try to get ticket money with no jail time. Perfect solution for a money hungry government.

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#486759 - 02/10/09 04:27 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: ]
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Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2565
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
Aunty-

At least one of you two was high! wink
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#486826 - 02/10/09 07:51 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: Mikespike]
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#486847 - 02/10/09 08:35 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: ]
RowVsWade Offline
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Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 3405
Loc: Island Time
Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Do men have to get their testicles crushed when they get a mannogram?

Something tells me no.

Pigs.

moose


Turning your "head" and coughing is worse....especially when an old man has you by your nads.

Besides I give mammograms without any discomfort to the victi...uh I mean patient.
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#486851 - 02/10/09 08:49 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: RowVsWade]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Originally Posted By: RvW
without any discomfort to the victi...uh I mean patient.


rofl
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell.
I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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#487118 - 02/11/09 03:24 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: Dan S.]
Salmo g. Offline
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All this medical stuff . . . I know a guy who claims on his business card to be an oral gynecologist, first visit free.

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#487189 - 02/11/09 05:45 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: Salmo g.]
BERG Offline
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Registered: 02/07/09
Posts: 382
Loc: PA
Can you post his info up? My great, great aunt is in the market for a new gyno.

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#487207 - 02/11/09 06:06 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: BERG]
RowVsWade Offline
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Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 3405
Loc: Island Time
Originally Posted By: BERG
Can you post his info up? My great, great aunt is in the market for a new gyno.


Is she hot?
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#487209 - 02/11/09 06:09 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: RowVsWade]
dewbie Offline
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Registered: 01/30/09
Posts: 856
Originally Posted By: RowVsWade
Originally Posted By: BERG
Can you post his info up? My great, great aunt is in the market for a new gyno.


Is she hot?


rofl

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#487741 - 02/13/09 12:11 PM Re: Let me see if I got this rght [Re: dewbie]
Krijack Offline
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Registered: 06/03/06
Posts: 1533
Loc: Tacoma
Aunty M,
A freind of mine is a smaller guy(maybe 5'6" and a 140lbs), and as a result always is seems to be hit on by gay guys. About 10years ago, when he was in his mid-twenties, he had to go in for a physical. He was telling me about how the doctor gave him a prostate exam. The worst part of it was, as he was digging in his fingers, he raised his voice to a femine tone and told "your tensing, just relaxxxxxth." He was even happier when I told him most people don't get their first test till the at least 40 and usually even later than that.

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