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#638118 - 11/26/10 09:54 PM Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free?
huntncoug Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 1632
Loc: Echo Lake
I wipe my guns down, let them dry out and rub them with Remoil wipes after hunting, but they still end up having a little bit of rust on them a week later. What can I do to combat this problem?
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#638136 - 11/26/10 10:27 PM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: huntncoug]
Fog Ducker Offline
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Registered: 11/13/09
Posts: 151
Put a Goldenrod safe dehumidifier in the safe.

http://www.goldenroddehumidifiers.com/

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#638146 - 11/26/10 11:28 PM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: Fog Ducker]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
Golden Rod for a safe, or run an HVAC vent to your safe room.
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#638322 - 11/27/10 07:48 PM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: Dogfish]
smokin' salmon Offline
Smolt

Registered: 05/24/06
Posts: 75
Loc: University Place, WA
I had the same problem... I found a product at Home Depot called Damp Rid... It looks like a clothes hanger with a plastic bag attached to it...
the top half has white and yellow beads in it, the lower half is empty...
it works like a Dri-z-air and the moisture collects in the lower half of the bag ... I was surprised as to how much water collected in it after only 2 weeks... the only draw back is it is scented and makes your safe smell kinda girly!!

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#638330 - 11/27/10 09:04 PM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: smokin' salmon]
Irie Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4358
Loc: South Sound
You're also wiping off your oil when you rub them down.

I used to have the same problem, especially with my Brownings for some reason. Maybe their blueing sucks.

Try leaving on more oil and then wiping them off when you take them out to use.

As far as humidity goes the above suggestions are good.

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#638399 - 11/28/10 04:00 AM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: Irie]
cupo Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 1060
Loc: north sound
Birchwood-Casey makes a rust preventative called Barricade that works really well. It used to be called Sheath. Should be with the gun cleaning supplies at the store.

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#638506 - 11/28/10 09:45 PM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: cupo]
huntncoug Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 1632
Loc: Echo Lake
thanks for the advice! I would like to put a goldenrod in my safe but I dont know where I would run the cord. The Dri Z Air method sounds promising along with the "Barricade"
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#638557 - 11/28/10 11:56 PM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: huntncoug]
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Registered: 09/26/06
Posts: 2312
Loc: Where ever Dogfish tells me to...
Cabela's sells a unit that just hangs in the safe, when the balls inside change color, plug it in for 10-16 hrs (or til the balls change back to the right color) then put it back in the safe. Bout the size of couple of boxes of rifle shells.

Next time I'm in the safe I will get you the actual name.


Good seeing you Friday Cameron.
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#638584 - 11/29/10 01:07 AM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: FishRanger]
huntncoug Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 1632
Loc: Echo Lake
Thanks for the advice and nice seeing you as well Bryon. Let me know what the name of your system is it sounds like it might be what I am looking for.
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#638602 - 11/29/10 02:33 AM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: huntncoug]
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Loc: N of Seattle
http://www.stack-on.com/categories/accessories/products/83

here ya go bud. I got a new one in the package If ya want one now
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#638610 - 11/29/10 04:16 AM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: Achewter]
huntncoug Offline
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Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 1632
Loc: Echo Lake
thanks Art, I still have all your tuna gear but if you want I will buy that from you
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#638755 - 11/29/10 04:54 PM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: huntncoug]
WalleyeWorld Offline
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Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 167
Loc: Bonney Lake, Washington
Originally Posted By: huntncoug
thanks for the advice! I would like to put a goldenrod in my safe but I dont know where I would run the cord. The Dri Z Air method sounds promising along with the "Barricade"


Check you safe. Mine has a hole in the bottom left corner just for running a cord. I use the goldenrod dehumidifier in mine and have not had any problems. Basicly it is just a low output heater. You can grab it with your hand and it is warm but not hot. It basicly keeps everything in the safe slightly warmer than the outside air so nothing will condense on the steel.
Bret

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#638793 - 11/29/10 06:54 PM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: WalleyeWorld]
Sky-Guy Offline
The Tide changed

Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7232
Loc: Everett
Thanks for the links. I've had the same problem and have been using dessicants in the safe but know they wont last forever. I bought a smaller re-chargeable dehumidifier off ebay today for $16.00 after checking those other units out. I dont have a full size safe so this little gadgett will do: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370460850824&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
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#638819 - 11/29/10 07:58 PM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: huntncoug]
Fog Ducker Offline
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Registered: 11/13/09
Posts: 151
Originally Posted By: huntncoug
thanks for the advice! I would like to put a goldenrod in my safe but I dont know where I would run the cord.


I had to drill a 1/4" hole in the back of the safe. Removed the plug, stuffed the chord, and reatached the plug.
I put a second one in also, just in case one gave out unaware.

Have not had any problems with either of them.

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#638933 - 11/30/10 01:09 AM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: Fog Ducker]
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Egg

Registered: 10/10/10
Posts: 4
Loc: PNW,USA
Coug, the best product I've found for rust prevention has been "Eezox".
Available online from the link below. If it's good enough for daily use by hunting guides in central Alaska, it's good enough for me.
I've read so many tests about the efficiency of various oils, etc, and this product consistently comes out on top, or near it. Rem-Oil as you mentioned usually comes out near the bottom, as was my experience also(I've not tried any of their newer stuff).
I would not recommend Eezox for lubrication only.
My safe is in a semi warm spot in my house and I've not had to resort to the de-humidifier products.
http://www.eezox.com/index.html
Good luck to you.

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#639079 - 11/30/10 03:06 PM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: Achewter]
sidewinder Offline
Fry

Registered: 02/29/04
Posts: 35
Loc: bothell
Wow! Thats a serious moisture problem. A WEEK! Dry Z Air is a good product. You could drill a hole in the bottom of your safe like stated above. Then run the cord out the back for a dehumidifier. I use rem oil too. Changing to a heavier oil will help, but it will not solve the problem.


Edited by sidewinder (11/30/10 03:15 PM)

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#639736 - 12/02/10 01:22 PM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: sidewinder]
Driftin' Offline
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Registered: 04/29/06
Posts: 1740
Loc: Offshore
'Nother thing worth mentioning is where the culprit moisture is originating. If your safe is sitting on a concrete slab-on-grade (SOG) or your home's sub-floor crawl space doesn't have a 6-mil vapor barrier over the soil and your safe is in an unheated closet, you'll likely have rust and mold.

If it is the SOG, you could try setting your safe on something to keep the moisture vapor from directly entering the bolt holes in the bottom of your safe. Painted plywood, sheet rubber, torch down roofing, etc. set over a bead of caulk around any holddown bolts would probably help matters.

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#640878 - 12/06/10 09:25 AM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: Driftin']
FishRanger Offline
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Registered: 09/26/06
Posts: 2312
Loc: Where ever Dogfish tells me to...
THe unit I have is a Remington Mini Dehumidifier, Model 365.
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#640879 - 12/06/10 10:14 AM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: FishRanger]
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
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#641446 - 12/07/10 06:48 PM Re: Keeping the Guns in my safe rust free? [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 14486
Loc: Tuleville
A goldenrod and a bucket of the Dri-Z-air pellets keeps my safe warm and dry.

Never had any rusts problems on my firearms.
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