#706682 - 09/27/11 04:38 PM
Get the money out of politics!
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Dick Nipples
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"No person, corporation or business entity of any type, domestic or foreign, shall be allowed to contribute money, directly or indirectly, to any candidate for Federal office or to contribute money on behalf of or opposed to any type of campaign for Federal office. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, campaign contributions to candidates for Federal office shall not constitute speech of any kind as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution or any amendment to the U. S. Constitution. Congress shall set forth a federal holiday for the purposes of voting for candidates for Federal office." http://www.getmoneyout.com/Fish on... Todd
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#706683 - 09/27/11 04:44 PM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
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I like the idea, (I really do) but would that only limit those who personally have deep pockets to run for office?
(link didn't work)
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#706684 - 09/27/11 04:46 PM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
[Re: Todd]
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Dick Nipples
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The petition has just been released, and apparently the traffic is shutting down the server repeatedly...stick with it, and you'll get a chance to sign.
Nothing of substance will ever change so long as money and corporations own all the politicians from both parties.
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#706685 - 09/27/11 04:47 PM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
[Re: Todd]
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Dick Nipples
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Publicly funded, and they all get the same amount.
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#706686 - 09/27/11 05:01 PM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
[Re: Todd]
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Registered: 12/09/03
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Loc: Seattle
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Neat idea. Unfortunately, it won't work. Supreme Court has already ruled that campaign contributions are "speech" protected by the Constitution. You can't circumvent that ruling by simply putting language in a law saying that contributions don't equal speech.
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#706687 - 09/27/11 05:02 PM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
[Re: Brant]
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Dick Nipples
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Yes, you can...it's a Constitutional Amendment.
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#706690 - 09/27/11 05:06 PM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
[Re: Todd]
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I just signed it, it took a bit for the server to not error when entering the site, or when voting signing, but it did finally capture my vote 'signature'.
I have never understood how campaign contributions could be considered free speech, when all it really is, is payola. Don't DJ's get jailed for payola?
Edited by MartyMoose (09/27/11 05:07 PM)
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#706691 - 09/27/11 05:09 PM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
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Registered: 12/09/03
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Loc: Seattle
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I couldn't get on the site to see that. Still, seems like a nice pipe dream, considering you would need two thirds of the Senate and two thirds of the House of Representatives to pass it or two thirds of the various state legislatures. I can't see politicians ever doing this. Even if they wanted to, these guys couldn't get together to get anything done.
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#706692 - 09/27/11 05:09 PM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
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Registered: 06/18/01
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Are you including Union donations?
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#706695 - 09/27/11 05:16 PM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
[Re: Brant]
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Dick Nipples
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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State legislatures should have no problem with it...it wouldn't affect their abilities to be bought and paid for, just the federal candidates.
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#706698 - 09/27/11 05:19 PM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
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Dick Nipples
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Are you including Union donations? "I'm" not including anyone, as I didn't write it...but I'd say it would clearly prohibit that, too. Fish on... Todd
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#706784 - 09/28/11 12:02 AM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
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River Nutrients
Registered: 12/30/07
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public financing only benefits the incumbent. The media with the exception of fox is totally in the tank for democrats. Democrats challenged two hosts on KVI a few years back for the value of on air contributions. Just enough to shut them up for the election. The hosts won the court decision.
The money is a problem when you can filter foreign money into the campaigns. Its also a problem when someone from outside the state can donate a lot of money to a candidate.
Edited by Lead Bouncer (09/28/11 12:07 AM)
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#706836 - 09/28/11 08:30 AM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
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WINNER
Registered: 01/11/03
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Loc: Olypen
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Ever heard of pissing into the wind? Buying elections are what today's politics are all about.
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#706840 - 09/28/11 09:13 AM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
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How about making it illegal for any government or grant-funded employee to donate to campaign funds? NOTE: that wouldn't be an issue for Seattle or San Francisco as they are only interested in "free" (see tipping thread) 
Edited by Slab Happy (09/28/11 09:15 AM)
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#706848 - 09/28/11 10:12 AM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
[Re: ParaLeaks]
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Registered: 06/28/00
Posts: 442
Loc: Rocky Mountain High
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How about making it illegal for any government or grant-funded employee to donate to campaign funds? great idea, let's disenfranchise soldiers, cops, and firefighters.
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#707350 - 09/30/11 10:12 AM
Re: Get the money out of politics!
[Re: topwater]
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Registered: 10/14/99
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Loc: Orygun
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How about an ammendment to choose Reps at random from a pool of qualified candidates. One term only then back home you go. No pension. No Med benni's for life. A nice plaque if you like but you can take your Federal experience and apply it at the State or local level if you still want to "serve".
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