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#719220 - 11/18/11 02:51 PM Re: Wall Street Protest * [Re: Illyrian]
GutZ Offline
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F' you Illyrian wink kidding
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#719225 - 11/18/11 02:56 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: GutZ]
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I am sure glad they didn't block the Montlake Bridge. I can only imagine how much ill will that would generate.

Do you think the Old Lady got pepper sprayed on purpose? Now she is some kind of Hero. They put a face on this stupidity.
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#719273 - 11/18/11 05:29 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: GutZ]
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Lol. That's Ok Gutz, I got no time for romance anyhow.

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#719359 - 11/18/11 10:07 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
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Billionaires Use Tax Loophole To Lower Their Tax Rates To 1 Percent


In 2009, 1,470 households reported income of more than $1 million but paid no federal income tax on it, through their use of various tax loopholes and shelters. Tax rates for millionaires have fallen by 25 percent since the mid-’90s, while one quarter of millionaires currently pay lower tax rates than the average middle-class household.

The tax code is full of provisions that help the very wealthy, like the pernicious carried interest loophole or the preferential treatment of investment income. And the end result is a tax code that advantages the 1 percent over the 99 percent.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/11/18/372346/billionaires-loopholes-one-percent-tax/

This sucks!

Fishy


Edited by Somethingsmellsf (11/18/11 10:10 PM)
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#719362 - 11/18/11 10:19 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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Former JPMorgan Banker: Exploiting Consumers Is ‘The Purpose Of The Banking Organization’


Wall Street banks, largely spared from the economic ruin felt by millions of Americans since the financial crisis of 2008, have returned to profitability, generating higher profits in the two-and-a-half years since the crisis than they did in nearly eight years preceding it.

http://thinkprogress.org/

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#719637 - 11/20/11 08:42 AM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
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At this moment we are passing through a period of great unrest-social, political, and industrial unrest. It is of the utmost importance for our future that this should prove to be not the unrest of mere rebelliousness against life, of mere dissatisfaction with the inevitable inequality of conditions, but the unrest of a resolute and eager ambition to secure the betterment of the individual and the nation.

So far as this movement of agitation throughout the country takes the form of a fierce discontent with evil, of a determination to punish the authors of evil, whether in industry or politics, the feeling is to be heartily welcomed as a sign of healthy life.

If, on the other hand, it turns into a mere crusade of appetite against appetite, of a contest between the brutal greed of the "have nots" and the brutal greed of the "haves," then it has no significance for good, but only for evil. If it seeks to establish a line of cleavage, not along the line which divides good men from bad, but along that other line, running at right angles thereto, which divides those who are well off from those who are less well off, then it will be fraught with immeasurable harm to the body politic.
-Theodore Roosevelt, “The Man with the Muck-rake” 1906

I think these words resonate more today then ever.

Just as the 1% shouldn’t be able to determine the winners and the losers neither should the 99%. The challenge is hunting down and removing those intent on evil-power and greed-while embracing those who truly do have the best interest of America for all, be them in business, politics or on the streets and regardless of which side of the aisle one sits.

And with the wonderful leaders we have, both in power and on the sidelines, good luck with that frown .

We have got to get back to a point where politics is the exchange if idea's with the goal of a better government for all, as opposed to where we are today where politics is the art of raising the most money and power with the goal of "winning!"

And this is why I support the WSM. Whether I agree with them or not, or even understand their message, at least it is engaging people to discuss the roll of politics in todays society! I think we all know where we stand based on approval ratings but now the question becomes what are we going to do about it???

And sadly that question will ba answered as usual. March on down to the polling station and re-elect everyone or blindly choose those with a "D" or an "R" next to their name beathead


Edited by BroodBuster (11/20/11 08:42 AM)
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#719638 - 11/20/11 08:47 AM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM
"I hope the people on Wall Street will pay attention to the people on Main Street. If they do, they will see there is a rising tide of confidence in the future of America."
- Ronald Reagan

They didn't.



Actualy they did. They took that confidence and used it to put billions in their pockets frown And then when their pyramid scheme came tumbling down the politicians bailed them out frown

see sig line below smile


Edited by BroodBuster (11/20/11 08:49 AM)
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#719639 - 11/20/11 08:56 AM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: BroodBuster]
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"Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." Ronald Reagan


Man isn't that the truth!

The oppressed get to pay for the oppressors mistakes.

Fishy
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#719656 - 11/20/11 12:46 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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News this AM: Some agitator was passing out stick, stones clubs etc
at the latest Oakland outrage. Peaceful Ne' Wonder if he would pass
out firearms if he could get em.
Scum.

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#719676 - 11/20/11 02:04 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Illyrian]
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#719682 - 11/20/11 02:18 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: SBD]
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"It’s crystal clear that the Bush tax reduction on capital gains and dividend income in 2003 was the cutting edge policy that has created the immense increase in net worth of corporate executives, Wall St. professionals and other entrepreneurs".


I'd like to hear a rebuttal that refutes that statement.

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#719726 - 11/20/11 05:47 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Illahee]
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They deserve it because they work so hard and they will invest the immense increases in net worth in creating so many new jobs that the economy will skyrocket and the national dept will be completely paid off. Every one will become millionaires.

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#719741 - 11/20/11 06:49 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Keta]
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Originally Posted By: Keta
They deserve it because they work so hard and they will invest the immense increases in net worth in creating so many new jobs that the economy will skyrocket and the national dept will be completely paid off. Every one will become millionaires.


and then we'll follow the yellow brick road, follow, follow, follow,follow the the yellow brick road......Oh sorry thought this was a fantasy!


Ask a single mother how hard she works!

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#719763 - 11/20/11 09:14 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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I think Keta's sarcasm was missed.............
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#719801 - 11/20/11 11:47 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Dan S.]
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Originally Posted By: Dan S.
I think Keta's sarcasm was missed.............


I got it, just playin along! smile


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#719843 - 11/21/11 05:15 AM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
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Watching some news tonight...The thing I find odd is the collective repetition of statements at these occupy protests, which are reminiscent of mind control techniques. Repeat after me, over and over until you believe whatever I say. Then go tell someone else.
Ditch the mind manipulating chants and well go home, because that does no good, is making no difference, and giving your mind away. What are you, lower-grade school kids repeating what teacher says? My god, you are bloody adults. What are you doing?

I'm not against the spirit of this movement, but it needs leadership and a better strategy IMO,... and less mind controlling-esque repetition of a bunch of bullsh!t at random.
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#719936 - 11/21/11 03:12 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Collective repetition like the tea partiers? Collective repetition like the Republican party?

These people represent all those that cannot or will not get out and protest the inequities of our politics,corporations and influential that have used their Collective power to degrade this countries middle class into a third world nation without affordable health care ( insurance companies rule legislation), decent pensions, livable wages,deceit, corruption and outright lying by Corporations, Executives, Bankers, Financial insiders and just about everyone else that has any power over those in the working classes.

Collective repetition has led us into the abyss, the masses are just now getting on board with this collective action!


Fishy
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#720264 - 11/22/11 04:32 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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I think Newt Gingrich layed it pretty succinctly -

“The Occupy movement starts with the premise that we all owe them everything,” Gingrich said. “They take over a public park they didn’t pay for, they use nearby bathrooms they didn’t pay for to obstruct those who are going to work to pay for the taxes to sustain the bathroom to sustain the park so they can self righteously explain that they are the paragons of virtue to which we owe everything,” Gingrich added.

“That is a pretty good symptom of how much the left has collapsed as a moral system in this country and why you need to reassert something as simple as saying to them, ‘go get a job right after you take a bath,” the former House Speaker said.

I think now that there is probably a "1%" within the Occupy movement. A "1%" who really think they can change something. The other 99% of them are the ones that Newt refers to.

PS source was not Fox news
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#720265 - 11/22/11 04:39 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: GutZ]
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Originally Posted By: GutZ
PS source was not Fox news
I sure hope it was satire.
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#720268 - 11/22/11 04:58 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: goharley]
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Gutz - If you REALLY think that Newt "layed it out pretty succinctly" with that quote... then I submit that you are much "harder right" in your political views than you give yourself credit for. wink
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