Originally Posted By: SpoonFed
Stopping the flood of illegal immigrants into our country for one. Illegal being the key word.

Slashing big pharma $.

Our economy has been thriving the past 4 years.

His major agenda for America is to cut taxes and put more money back in our pockets. Slowly but shurley.

Taking back our jobs from overseas. To give the Americans more employment opportunities and again, put money back in our pockets.

The exact opposite than what was on the Obiden agenda. The Americans suffer while our $ and jobs go overseas and in people like pelosi's and China's pocket.

Sounds terrible, huh todd?

Again, what is Biden going to do for the American people.
Fukall, that's what.

The only cult around here is the "hate for Trump" cult. Just cuz.
In which you are the leader.










There are zero facts there.

There is a bunch of lip service to some policy-like things...but no facts.

In these cases, facts are verifiable numbers, not pie in the sky proclamations.

Let's see about puttig some actual facts in your lip service proclamations...

1. Stopping the flood of illegal immigrants.

First off, your proclamation makes no actual sense, as there hasn't been any "flood" of illegal immigrants...and illegal immigration has been going down in the US steadily since 2008, the year that Obama took office.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/12/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

That's your "fact" number one, debunked.

2. Slashing big Pharma money

What does that even mean?

Here is information on the top 'Big Pharma' companies and their income...giant dollars, and steadily on the rise, always...and that's just revenue, they also got gigantic windfalls from Trump's tax cut for the ultra-wealthy.

https://www.thepharmaletter.com/article/annual-revenue-of-top-10-big-pharma-companies

That's your "fact" number two, debunked.

3. Our economy has been thriving the last four years

Well, no, not by any measure other than the stock market, which not shockingly doesn't really benefit you, or me, much at all...and the stock market just followed the trend that it has been on for the last decade since Obama turned it around...the exact same trajectory.

Trump has been trying to take credit for that, but didn't actually do anything.

https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years

Maybe you mean the GDP? Probably not...it has mostly held steady, but went down in 2016, and 2019.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/gdp-growth-rate

By what measure do you think the economy has been thriving, and attributable to Donald Trump?

Those are the top two things people usually mean when they say "economy", and clearly Trump has, at best, done nothing, and at worst the economy has worsened.

Maybe wages? Nope...haven't even kept up with inflation.

https://www.epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/

There's your "fact" number 3...debunked.

4. Cut taxes and put more money in our pockets

This one doesn't even need backup...it's a complete and utter pile of garbage, unless you make over $400,000.00, which 99% of the country does not.

He has done zero on this "fact".

Fact #4, debunked.

5. Taking back jobs from overseas

None of that has happened yet, after four years of promising it would...and both consumers and manufacturers will push back on anything that could actually do this.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-...gree-2020-06-22

The reason there would be push back is that it would do the exact opposite of your "fact"...it would make everything cost a lot more, taking money out of our pockets, not putting any in...just like the tariffs that we the consumers are paying. China doesn't pay tariffs, they just add them to the cost of goods and we pay them.

Trump's tariff wars have done nothing to make any money for US companies, or save US consumers any money...and have in fact done the opposite.

https://taxfoundation.org/tariffs-trump-trade-war/#:~:text=Tariffs%20Raise%20Prices%20and%20Reduce%20Economic%20Growth&text=Historical%20evidence%20shows%20that%20tariffs,employment%2C%20and%20lower%20economic%20output.

There's "fact" #5...utterly debunked by its own terms.

By any measure of your "facts", anything good there started with the Obama Administration, and Trump either had no effect on them (like the stock market), or reversed the good trends (like the rest of your "facts").

Now I realize, as I noted above, that when a Trumpanzee says "show me the facts" that he actually doesn't care what the facts are...because they are easily verifiable, and they can just pull a Trump and either change the subject or call the facts "fake news"...

But there they are.

Your facts are total bupkiss.

Do you really base who/what you vote for on such easily debunked fallacies?

If you're a Trumpanzee...yes, you do, because it's not about facts, it's about "owning the libs", even if it hurts you economically, and embarrasses us all, including you, in the eyes of the rest of the world.

Fish on...

Todd
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