Originally Posted By: Todd
As noted...if it happens it "is" my money that will be paying for it...I actually do pay taxes, a lot of them, and if I have to pay them I'd rather they go for something that benefits me, or society, instead of rich people who don't need any help.


Another false dilemma. It's not spend trillions on college vs spend trillions on welfare for the rich. I don't want poor people getting welfare I don't want rich people getting welfare, in fact the rich probably receive more in welfare that the poor so are a bigger issue just because the dollar amount. But your dilemma is false because instead of arguing over who get what welfare about how about we just pay for neither, pay less in unnecessary taxes and people just get to keep more of their own money? Also again with the whataboutism which is an example tu quoque logical fallacy. Whatabout some rich person that is also doing something else I don't like doesn't is irrelevant and doesn't answer the question.

I never claimed you don't pay taxes, I know you pay a lot of taxes. Everybody pays a lot of taxes. We are taxed too much, and should pay less in taxes.

You can bitch on the internet about college loan forgiveness or you can whip out your checkbook and pay someone's loan off. Which one of those results in getting rid of more college loan debt? Be the change you want to see in the world. One step at a time. But by your actions I can see that you are unwilling to pay college loan forgiveness so why are you saying you are when really, you aren't?

You want to talk college forgiveness then lets talk about how "we" as a society decide to spend "our" money. Again, I ask, how much money do you propose to spend on college loan forgiveness, where is that money now in society, what is the justification for that group of people and only that group of people paying for it. But I am an adult and if you want to have conversations with adults you have to provide answers to reasonable questions. So please answer without any of the logically fallacies you use again and again. No false dilemmas, no whataboutism, no ad hominins. If you use fallacies, I'll call you out on it each and every time just as I have again and again. I'm starting to think you are incapable of any response other than logically fallacious ones.