I'm mostly nodding along with you here. Since I don't have much to add other than I agree with your clear, convincing, compelling and logically sound argument. Having said that I do want to point out one or two small things we may or may not disagree on but don't think it means I don't overwhelming agree with what you said.



I agree with this goal but obviously this is not what the public school system or the college system produces. If this is the goal, we are failing miserably.

College for all is a foolish, counter-productive, anti-social idea. Free college really doesn't make it much better. College as it is done today is an indoctrination program that turns our youth into our enemies, bent on destroying our society. College as it was done in past centuries is inappropriate for 90% or more of the population. There are very few who won't be harmed irreparably by spending their first four adult years thinking instead of working. Because the earlier you start putting money to work, the more time you have on your side for your money to work for you instead of you working for money.

College means spending four-plus years producing nothing, thinking - or just drinking - instead of doing. Those early years of adulthood should be spent working hard, learning a trade, starting a family. Instead they are spent at college, doing none of those things. College is four years on hold, four years wasted. That's the optimistic take: often it's four years of dissipation and indoctrination in evil.

When you add to that wasted time a college debt the size of a mortgage on a small house, college becomes a millstone hung around the swimmer's neck. It is nearly impossible to overcome the disadvantage of those four wasted years, will never get back on the track he could have been on if he had been productive for those four years instead of enslaving himself to the lender.

Forgiving the debt without doing anything else won't solve the problem. The universities and banks still win and the students learn a bad lesson (I guess it's the capstone of their sh!tty degrees). The same people that that squandered thier money, energy, or resources in early adulthood getting a worthless degree now demand that we need to squander our money, energy, or resources too. They will never learn to quit squandering things if we just bail them out, paying off their own debts teaches a lesson in not squandering things, if we bail them out instead of learning not to squander we are teaching them learned helplessness. Learned helplessness leads to depression, anxiety and mental illness. We have too many mentally ill people in the world. Mental illness leads to suffering. Everyone suffers from mentally ill people both the normal non mentally ill people suffer by having to be around the mentally ill but most of the suffering is borne by the mentally ill themselves. Making more mentally ill people makes more suffering, for everyone. So we should do less things that cause mental illness to reduce the suffering in the world. Colleges right now are increasing the mental illness in the world, free college or college loan forgiveness will increase the mental illness in the world. So lets make less people mentally ill.

Ok now for the banter.

And yes you never directly said that I have horrible opinions but sort of implied it by taking my joking insult as compliment so I was just riffing of that by joking further.

I rate that post as 5/5 pillows boomer, so you are not as senile as you sometimes come across as so the day of the pillow is further out for you. I know you have a dry sense of humor and I get that you have jokes and sarcasm that goes over most people's heads kind of like how most of mine go over yours.