Spoon, I'll assume we get our respective facts from different sources. When it comes to pushing hate, I see it coming from the right most often, from Trump, Stephen Miller, Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem, and others among that cast of characters.

I'm familiar with debate, and that isn't what Kirk or many others who claim to debate actually do. When I've seen Kirk "debate" what he was doing was verbally arranging a put down of his opponent rather than constructively arguing the merits of his position.

RichG, No, I don't think it was faked. No Hollywood. Blood gushing from a ripped carotid artery and an instantly limp and lifeless body in front of many witnesses would be beyond difficult to fake. And how would anyone benefit from a stunt like that? Unfortunately, Kirk is gone and isn't coming back . . . on a Tuesday or any other day.