I guess I will give one up too. This is for all you float fisher people out there,You know when your float fishing and the float moving down river and your line is moving ahead of it and your trying to mend it and your float is moving out of the spot you want to be in. to help from doing this try line float for fly fisherman, cast it as far as you can and as you retrieve ithold the line float on your line all the to the bobber stop. this will make it so easy to mend or lift your back behind your float