You aren't getting it, so it's time for some hand-holding. My comments will be bolded within the original in italics:

"All right I have built a fortified bunker,

You show here that you know that you are going to get some flack for posting this, possibly an ignored gift of foresight.

perhaps containing a cave sytem of some kind to hide in after this post but what the He**…

I don't mean to bash one of this prestigious(?) BB's sponsors intentionally but this BB is about the sharing of information.

Is it my imagination or are Vision hooks totally worthless?


That last statement is where you are damned, my friend. In ten words you have condemned their entire line of fishing hooks, even though in the next sentence you admit to only using the siwash hooks.

I tried to use these things for the first time this weekend and three out of every four of the Siwashes broke in the exact same place while crimping them! Furthermore the 'open end' of the hook eyes were not big enough to get around a simple split ring.

If it is true that first impressions are everything, then these hooks are nothing.

Save your money and stick with Gammies, yes they have their limitations and occasional quality issues but they are, from my experience, far more reliable than the Visions."


Another odd statement. You say above that this was one experience with Vision hooks, quite possibly your first. Then you say that the product that you are suggesting as a better hook (Gami's) also have their "limitations and occasional quality issues". What's the difference? That you happened to run into the quality issues in your first box instead of your fourth? Sounds like bad luck to me, or maybe that **** happens from time to time.

This is not a flame, this is pure observation. It has been brought to my attention by the sales staff at Vision (at least, that's what I am taking their signatures and URL links to mean)that they have an excellent return policy, their Customer service department will replace my hooks and refund my money...

You've been given the link to Vision's website at least twice now, so if you don't believe that they represent Vision hooks then go to the website and email them from there. Betcha they're the same people. And what's with the dot-dot-dot at the end of their promise to replace your hooks AND (not or) refund your money? Did they give you a conjunction like "...but you are a ninnyhead for posting this crap like you did"? I didn't see it if they did, but you deleted the previous thread so maybe it happened.

That is a responsible offer and one tendered by well intentioned business men who have something to lose by receiving negative publicity.

This strikes me as someone looking for blood. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I don't think so. They're not trying to pay you off with hush money. They're trying to make things right by you, and you won't let them and instead are wanting to drag it around in the mud some more.

I'm done dissecting. If you cannot see where you "flamed" their product from this outline then nobody can help you.

And for the record my only afilliation with Vision Hooks and Tackle is that I helped them get their website up and running. I was not compensated for this (not even any of their "worthless" hooks wink ) nor did I seek any compensation. My words and thoughts are my own and have not been purchased, leased, rented, or borrowed from me. I'm just another angler.

[EDIT] Damn, forgot to preview. Missed one stinking carriage return.
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