Cow--- if you carefully read my post you will see I said itty-bitty flies "USUALLY" are fished in lakes and springcreeks. Most steelhead flies are on the large size. You find one person who agrees with you[now] and you hold him up as a free thinker and those that have different points of view are a click. Sometimes those that agree with a majority point of view have thought very hard about a situation and have come to a common view point independently of each other. And I'm about as real as they come.