*LOL* Grandpa thank you very much dor discrediting yourself. you have not read the HGMP's and therefore do not know what you are talking about.. prove me wrong.. Go read them then tell me what specific actions WDFW is planning to take to solve the known problems at their hatcheries..

On the other hand maybe you can't find the various leadeing members of WT out fishing because you do not know them or anything about them.
But i do. they tell me about winter steelheading on the Skagit they fish in the sound for salmon and then writting magazine atricles about it. They plunk sandshrimp and a spinglo on Drano lake trying to harvest a hatchry spring chinook. Maybe you should take some time to get to know some of these members they are as much about saving sportfishing as you.. However they understand that to save the fishing you must first save the fish..