Aunty M.. your hardly worth responding to in my opinion.. I have in the past as noted by other members here posted literally dozens of documents by hundreds of UNBIASED scientists.

Aunty M how many punches on your card this year?? mine?? 0 last year?? 4 the year before? 1.

You are largely incorrect about why hatcheries exsist.. Most hatcheries exsist because of loss of habitat due to hydro powered dams!!! NOT overharvest. especially here in the Columbia drainage.

As i already statd chum salmon are very easy to restore all they need is clean gravel and access to good estuary habitat.

hatcheries have never to my knowledge been successful in restoring any salmon runs anywhere. understand "restoring" to mean the long term self sustaining runs at high population levels. In fact the oppisite is true every time you put hatchery fish on top of wild fish the population of wild fish goes down..

hatcheries have their place and certainly WT knows and accepts that fact I have never heard anyone from WT say or imply anything different.. However they do not belong in nearly every single river in the state , which is currently the case. You don't see anything wrong because you already have what you want( Lots of hatchery fish everywhere) No hatchery to my knowledge has ever been closed as a result of any action by WT. No hatchery production level or any procedure has ever been changed as a result of any action by Washington Trout. All they are doing it seems to me is to try to get WDFW to live up to their legal obligations. This is a totally run away agency that thinks it is not accountable to us. Wt is trying to change that..


I also suggest you take a long hard look at WT's work in the past regarding harvest issues. They have done a ton of work to reduce harvest levels of salmon. They have been greatly involved in every aspect of salmon restoration which benefits YOU as a sportfisher.. it is my opinion you owe them an apology and a thankyou for all the work they have done on your behalf.

But i make you the same offer if you care about wild salmon if you really do then come out to the East Lewis next saturday with a shovel and a wheelbarrow the gravel you'll move will have chums spawning in it in November.

PS done with this thread