You would think that I would of learned to stay out of these conspiracy therory threads but alas...

Gooose...Maybe you need to take me to the quill fishery.I will decide afterwards whether you are a dirty snagger or not Seriosly though lets do it.I have some pics I would like to show ya.{Goose is not a dirty snagger but is a very ethical fisherman.I am just funnin him}

grandpa..gee I wonder where the old man remark came from....Talk about being a onesided ,name calling in need of keeping the emotion in check.You must be short on mirrors,probably has something to do with all the rocks you through in that glass house of yours.Getting that of my chest i think I will skip anger mangement class now go to work.On a positive note I do root for you on the errant political posts.

Aunty...You are the only person I have ever seen on these boards that will actually change an opinion as new information comes our way.Our fisheries would be alot better of if more of us could think and evolve as you do.I have though agreed with rob Allen for quite awile now when it comes to his passion against the hatcheries.I guess I have not been as willing to put my head out on the chopping block as he has done.Can you change my mind?

I do have major issues with our hatchery programs.The use of the hatcheries out here on the canal is going to finish off what the nets didn't or have not.They are dumping fish in the rivers where ever whenever they wish and it is one f the biggest reasons the wild fish are not coming back around.On top of that I can use a treble hook with a worm on waters that are c/r but two hatchery steelhead.In the meen time I get too watch two of the most unethical fisheries in the state of washiongton every fall,based on the HATCHERIES.I am one of those people that believe that our hatcheries are doing alot more harm then good.I am getting to the point that I am with anybody that challenges the state on these issues.My privelage to go fishing does not meen as much as the survival of the native fish stocks.I have spent way to much time way off the beaten path in search of these absolutly magnifecent specimins to see them replaced by a HATCHERY fish that does not really even know what it is anymore.

Example...Every year I hike into the canyon under the steel bridge on the Skoke.There used to be a healthy robust stock of resident steelhead or trout or whatever you want to call them.This year I get nothing but a bunch fin cliped hatchery smolt, none of the beautiful bright red fish that I have grown to love.

Example...In another canyon my first summer fish was a spawned out hatchery fish with its belly full of smolts...I had heard of this before but never put any weight on the idea..untill now.Do not care if the states science concerning the survival of hatchery spawn is correct or not,at this point.I am just wondering how many wild smolt these down river brights are killing.

example...want to see proof that hatchery fish reproduce in the wild.Fish the old hatchery on the duckabush end of nov. begining of dec.Basicly as the silvers and the chum die out.There still there.