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Originally posted by lead thrower:
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" but when the tribal people do the same thing its ok and they are are enviromental stewarts"

And you came up with this load of bull from where? rolleyes
At the risk of starting another stupid political discussion I have to ask you lead thrower.... You don't keep your eyes open much when in "Tribal" fishing waters do you now.....
I have been around many, many indians for years, was married into an indian family that was involved with treaty hunting/fishing, and also saw it up close for years of fishing/guiding on the Columbia River. It happens all the time, and the wanton waste of the resource by tribal members (per capita) is far worse than the general public. I had the Tribal Chief's son once ask me to buy Elk meat from him that was 3 years old. I asked him why he just did not eat it up. He then explained to me that he and a relative (Byron, a good friend of mine.. 1/8th indian) had just shot 8 Elk and he needed to get rid of the old stuff.... True story. When I called said Tribal chief to "report" the crime (I saw blasting a herd into oblivion a crime) he told me that his son was practicing his treaty rights and it was none of my business. I called Oregon F&G and they concurred that the tribal season was in effect from August until February and they did not have control over methods, bag limits, etc.....

Open your eyes. Tribal crimes/abuses happen, and no one is saying that all indians are bad people. Just that there ARE bad indians that nearly always get away with abuse of the system by waving treaty rights, and counting on the "saw-Dances-with-Wolves-one-too-many-times" crowd into thinking they can do no wrong.. Abuse of a resource is wrong no matter who or what you are. I just wish the media would cover a story like gill-nets left with rotting salmon in them, or the hundreds if not thousands of Clearwater native steelhead caught in gillnets (although they are "endangered"). But then I guess they would just get accused of running a racist story, or picking on the poor indians, or something to that effect if they did...

I am going to fish for salmon on the Umatilla river this next week, and on my trip there last weekend I saw the tribes gillnetting the hell out of the salmon and a group of white guys (married to indians I guess) selling them for $1 a pound at the marina.... I stopped in to check the fish out (like I was an interested buyer) and the fish were pretty warm in the cooler, (lying in water) and I pointed out that 2 of the fish I saw (probably 15-18lbs each) were native steelhead and I didn't think they could sell them. He said "Oh", and threw them into a different cooler in the back of his truck....

You have no idea what you are talking about (apparently you have not seen the abuse), you should not flame someone that obviously has..... IMHO.....

MC
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