But how many wild fish were killed in nets? Now, I could be wrong here, I don't have the data handy, but, for example, let's say that during those years you mentioned, would the run size have still declined albeit at a slower pace had there been full C&R? That's what it boils down to. What's the point of going full C&R, limiting sportsmen even more, if the run size is still going to decline? Going full C&R for wild steelhead obviously didn't help on the Snohomish system, which is why we are now reduced to a fishery that ends the end of February. I just don't want to lose opportunity when the end result is going to be almost nil. The bottom line is that you can close down every river in this state to sport fishing year round and the runs will still decline because the state and feds refuse to recognize the cause of the problem.