I have had great service at Joe's (lynnwood) and I shop there once a month or so. Of course I go there expecting about what I get, if I need a particular or specialty item, I go to a specialty shop. If I need those basic items or a couple of diffent things, I will go to Joe's.

As far as the 18 year old issue, find me a group of 30 year olds that can handle the automation as efficiently as those "kids" and who will work for $10/hour, thwhich, btw keeps thier prices down.