No H20 I don't think you can change a libs mind they think the way they do for very simple resasons. It's just plain old fun getting them riled up, angry by pushing their buttons. Easy to do as wittnessed here. Most of them cannot take it in stride. I thought it would be fun here on a site in a state that is overwhelmingly lib. I frequent another site that is overwhelmimgly conservative and there are 3 or 4 libs they smack around on a daily basis. Kind of like walking into Husky stadium wearing Cougar gear a rooting for USC :p