VHawk, nice report. Maybe Bob could post it in the Tips section so we don't have to go digging through the Archives when we want to buy some new line. My only comment is that I've done some testing of lighter line, and I've found an improved clinch knot with only 4 turns works better than a palomar. I think the best knot may vary depending on the diameter and type of line you are using, so it's good to try several.