I used a Berkley Buccaneer with a missing guide through the 80's and 90's catching kings on the Kenai so I was was hard pressed to spend the cash on a Sage. Then my wife bought me a 286 with the help of M_Ray and I swear I can feel a steelhead fart if there is one in the hole I'm drifting. The problem with that is then I had to go buy a 386. Both were built for around $350.