Originally Posted By: Kid Sauk

Who's in charge? I want the name of the person who signed the dotted line.


With the ESA listing The Northwest Region of NOAA Fisheries is the Agency in charge. Bob Lohn is the director so his name is on the bottom line. If you want to go up the ladder a bit higher he ultimately is responsible to the
Secretary of Commerce who is appointed by the President.

 Originally Posted By: Smalma


Less anyone thinks I'm happy to see this situation think again. I put a lot very hard work into those CnR season long before such things were fashionable and it saddens me greatly to see those opportunities shrinking or going away but as I mentioned early we are now in new era.


It is a new era, there are several regional models of how to survive in this new era. There is the approach that the logging industry took to the spotted owl listing, fight the rules, play all the political cards, and delay real solutions for as long as possible. One can look to the Columbia River basin salmon listings where rules were established but it is a continued battle in court to settle how they will be enforced. Or better yet, is the response to the listing of Puget Sound chinook. All of the public has made some sacrifices but it seems the plan is working though it could be derailed if some group feels they gave up too much and goes to court.

 Originally Posted By: bushbear
I'd be real careful about burning any bridges.....knowledge is good, but it has to be supported and you don't want it on the other side of the river


Good advice, and from another thread another bushbear quote which I think sums up what we have to remember in this new era.

 Originally Posted By: bushbear

....and, we can't forget that the Fed's and the courts along with the tribes are also players and their rules can be different than ours. We can be more restrictive when federal rules are in place - we can't be more liberal.