Originally Posted By: B-RUN STEELY
Here is what I am talking about...

In the end, land is locked up by the owner. In addition, huge parcels of land have been bought up simply for the tags they are eligible for.

400 class bulls are not that big of a deal anymore. The thing they most always have in common is that they are shot on privet lands.. by rich dudes. Utah is probably the worst / best example.



In this aspect you are wrong.. That bull was taken on public land as are most of the big bulls in UTAH, Oregon, and many other western states. Its called good management, you can buy land owner tags in many states and I have little issue with them because when you see how the general public treats our NF/BLM lands I wouldn't want the vast majority of these dickweeds on my property either. So heres your 2 options, one the ranchers complain complain complain until the state puts out too many tags and lowers the herd numbers drastically, or the elk and deer recieve a value are protected. In utah there are CMWU hunts that allow the gnereal public to hunt the ranches that tags are sold on. While the Idea of the Gov tag is hard to swallow due to jealousy that you don't have the cash, the value put back into AH&E benefits all hunters.

As for USO, they are the lowest of the low IMHO. Mossback is a much classier operation from what I understand, and they are the best at what they do. No different than a really top shelf fishing guide IMHO.
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