What I am saying is that habitat didn't take the runs out of of rivers that don't have habitat issuues.
I'm not too sure anyone is disagreeing with that, as much as just having fun yanking your chain.
There is and always will be dramatic oceanic cycles, varying from good to bad.
We are in (or coming out of) bad and in to good.
We should see run sizes increase. I don't think anyone doubts that. I will be shocked if we don't start seeing increased run sized due to increased favorable oceanic conditions.
Look at the HUGE jack count on the Columbia? One of the main hypothesis of why a jack would return early is because of good ocean conditions. If that's true, we should see an ass-pot of adult springers next spring on the Columbia.
Not too sure how this part of the thread got started. I thought we were talking about broodstocking on the Oregon rivers.
Granted we are not oceanographers, but what I'm interested to know more if is the how/why our oceans changed so much recently. Is/was it just a cyclic event (yes, to a lot of degree), but is or was there a climate change issue at work here?
I don't study oceans, so I don't really know. I'm tending to lean towards a natural oceanic cycle at this point and not the Al Gorefearmongering Climate Change idea. I'd think that would be more gradual......