I think that most of us agree that the guidestock steelhead program is a farce. To believe that the guidstock program is beneficial to the wild fish only shows how ignorant the miss-guided public has become.

Here is a saying coming from 1 of Tillamook's finest pie faced guides " Mark my words it'll be better in 2 years" this Say's it all, not a clue.

Quit trying to find things right with the current fiasco, there aren't any. Nothing worse than defending a sinking ship and trying to keep it afloat.

How about agreeing that the fish runs are in trouble and that the state agencies have no-clue as to the reason of the decline.
Let's look at the culprits in the last 2 decades that could be the natural reason for the decline. Would anyone like to start the list of reasons. I think I'll just throw out a couple.

Let's start with the obvious, hatcheries.