Francis, not only are you wrong on many counts, but calling those who disagree with your wrong ideas "haters" is EXACTLY why the CCA is earning its just rewards as a "conservation" or " sportfishing" group...both of those in quotes for a reason.

Check it...Salmo g., Smalma, and I have not always agreed...as a matter of fact, considering we're three dudes who have been in the thick of it for a total of something approaching a total of 100 years (their years are considerably more than mine!), the fact that all three of us agree that there will be no ESA springers saved and sportfishing will suffer considerably ought to at least give you pause for a moment rather than just parroting the CCA party line with no regard for the facts or logic...your first post on this thread outlines clearly why there will be no love for ESA Chinook and why sportfishing will suffer anyway...yet you still cling to the untenable and illogical line of thought that we can kill just as many ESA springers, and harvest far more hatchery springers in the nets, and somehow still have just as good of a sportfishery as we have been having...why is that?

Fish on...

Todd