Big Daddy...email me with some numbers...yeah I don't have the salmon charter...you guys are forgetting I am a teacher...OK wait...a PE teacher...last time I heard the going rate for one of them is somewhere in the neighborhood of 25,000...The six pack was not too difficult but surely a huge pain in the ass and a thousand bucks...we went 3 for 4 today with a pictureless heartbreaker...handed the rod off to my father in law...it felt like a strong fish...but nothing too big...he literally touches the rod and it goes on a "seal run" burning almost all of the line off the reel in about 20 seconds...I start the big motor and start chasing it...the flasher was dancing on the surface and headed right towards Captain Q's boat...Captain Q can pipe in with what he thought...we gained control and I tailed the 22 to 25lbish native a while later...and let him go without a netmark...tons of fun...