good points.... me too, on the Patterson film. I saw a doc that had some F/X experts talking about suit technology now vs the 60s and that there was no stretch fabric around that could have hugged muscles rippling under the surface like in the film. THey also had a scientist who had the original film that Patterson's widow had kept locked away. He analyzed it frame by frame from the ORIGINAL as others had used copies, which can be pretty blurry from old 8MM stock. He analyzed the limb ratios and the conclusions were interesting. The limb ratio of the subject in the film was outside anything close to human limb ratio, so either Roger Patterson was a genius who invented a stretch hair fabric 40 years before anyone knew of the technology and hired a 7'4" 500 pound bodybuilder with 30" calf muscles and freakish, .001% rare limb ratios to wear the suit, AND he had the amazing foresight to really confound science for 40 years by adding a set of pendulous, sucked-out Sasquatch mudflap t!tties to the suit......OR.....he shot a real creature with his camera. THe big problem is the walking. Everyone can walk, and that is all it did. Walk. IF it had run down a bull elk, wrestled it to the ground and broke it's neck with a blow and carried it away over it's shoulder...that would have raised some eyebrows.

The footprints always made me laugh too.....until I saw the Meldrum and Chilcutt analysis. Mid tarsal breaks? Dermal ridges? tough to fake those convincingly and fool a scientist and CGI forensics expert. Interesting stuff.

I'd love it if it is a real being pooping in the woods. A nice eye-poke to human arrogance. I doubt everyone of the thousands of eyewitnesses is lying.....they have too much to lose, and many have been cops! Just look at the abuse Rich has endured is this very thread!

Someday something irrefutable will come out if it is a flesh and blood beast, but to convince everyone nothing less than a body is required. The Hawks need one in their offensive line....sign up The Foot!