I think Todd, DD, and others spelled it out quite clearly in their initial posts...why a 7 page debate on the matter?
Fishing = a willing fish bites your hook
Flossing = your hook bites an unwilling fish
If you're hooking an unwilling fish, you're not fishing, you're flossing/snagging. Flossing/snagging is only done by non-fishermen who can't catch fish legitimately.
That spells out the entire rationale for my brand of hangback "flossing" for legitimate biters.
Doc, this is kinda splitting hairs here but I don't think your hangback method should be mentioned on a flossing thread and I wouldn't even use the words "floss" and "hangback" in the same sentence. Flossing implies that the fish is an unwilling biter and the fish you catch with your hangback method are obviously pursuing your offering.
Parker, I used to think the Lk WA sockeye were being flossed too, but ondarvr's similar post a couple years ago about his underwater video made me pay more attention to where the fish were hooked and I know now that they are in fact biting the bare hook. I guess my reluctance to believe they were biting was due to the sockeye's notoriety for being a non-biting salmon. It was hard for me to believe that virtually the only place in the whole world they actually do bite was Lake Washington....but I do now.
Aunty, I can't believe what I'm reading from you today...I really can't.
Ike