That's why some of us prefer to be self-managed

One last point...folks can take it how they please, and apply it to themselves or others as much or little as they would like.

In some situations people talk as if they are speaking well known and altogether obvious and simple facts...the problem is that they have accepted them as obvious and simple facts, and they are not. This in turn leads to them sounding like pompous ascot wearers when they truly do not feel that they bear even the slightest resemblance to one.

If we were talking about actual and measurable facts, then that's one thing...but in this case we are not, not by a long, long length.

It's not a perfect fit, but it would be like telling a long time racist that grew up in Alabama that he's being a racist...I have no doubt that he truly disagrees with that, and that he also truly thinks that what he is saying is not just true, but accepted Gospel, and that said racist is very offended by being called a racist.

Being an elitist is not something you try to do...it's something you are without trying, like Mitt Romney saying that the few hundred thousand he makes from speaking engagements is just peanuts...because to him, not only is it peanuts, but he has no idea that the other 99.9% of the nation does not consider it peanuts.

He truly thinks it is peanuts.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. I think I'll rate this thread as a "Five Star"...it's got it all.