Yeah, I have to agree with you, I talked to a sales rep (Superfly) last spring and told him I was interested in trying his hooks, I guide in Alaska and tie 900-1000 mooching leaders each year with Gami's and thought they would be worth checking out, the idea of saving a couple hundred bucks on hooks sounded good. Superfly said he would send a few to try but I never recieved them, I shelled out a few bucks and bought 100 4/0 hooks, out of this I got 42 leaders and just from tying the leaders I wasn't impressed, I used about 8-10 leaders and had no confidence in them, most had to be sharpened, and had 2 leaders with bent hooks after landing 25lb. kings, used gami's the rest of the season, think Superflop needs to go back to the drawing board and quit using Vision hooks in the same sentence as Gamakatsu.