Recreational fishers should care a lot about this intentional oversight by WDFW modelers and managers because we are getting absolutely hosed. For purposes of this thread I am stipulating that pinniped mortality is both significant and unaccounted for in the model. If it was accounted for it would be added to the calculation of the actual run size estimate after the fact. These mortalities would also be counted as harvest by those responsible for the loss. With larger run sizes, each group would be allowed more mortalities. For nets the result would be fewer fish in the boat when they reach their mortality allocation. Pinniped losses to the recreational fisher are relatively small compared to the nets so our increased allocation would result in more actually harvested fish for our share. As the model stands now the tribal fishers are not charged with any drop out losses, the non-tribal commercial fishers are charged with 2% drop out for coho and 3% for chinook. Recreational fishers are charged with drop off losses of 5%. I do not think pinniped losses are any part of these numbers. Release mortalities are an entirely different subject not to be confused with drop out, drop off, and pinniped losses.