Stack 3 (or 2) #2 or #1 owner or gamis and half hitch top hook to keep from slipping down top shank. Put top hook on small end of dual lock snap. Put large end of dual lock snap on spoon. I use 65# braided for hooks. I use that set-up on anchor with spoons with about 8 to the boat for every 1 lost. I have a lot of siwashes that I will never use.