Originally Posted By: blackmouth
Originally Posted By: Carcassman
About 20 years ago my boss challenged me to put up or shut up regarding salmonid recovery, which we were working on. Took the bait, published the paper, and forever changed the trajectory of my career. There are times when you (I, we) need to take stands and be willing to accept the consequences.

Might hurt the "bottom line" for a business. But a fishing tackle manufacturer, for example, won't sell much gear if there is no fishing. If there are no places to hike, camp, backpack the manufacturers and sellers of that gear don't make it.

I find it interesting that you look at the actions from a business perspective. Frankly I don't like government picking the winners and losers, but that has always been the way it was/is.

I enjoy using motor powered vehicles off road to see areas and vistas that I would have no other way to access. In the last 40 years I have seen vast amounts of land closed to the use of motorized vehicles, and I miss access to those areas. I also love to fish, and much of what I enjoy about fishing is the solitude, which is not easy to find even on the saltchuck.

I am sure that as the population grows the pressures on our resources will also grow, I am not as sure as some are that the answer is to have the feds declare certain and very large areas of land as betreten verbotin. To me it sounds similar to the thought that some liberals espouse that our Earth would be a great place to be if it was not inhabited by humans. rolleyes


Usually the closing of land is a result of big business coming in and closing off land OR people abusing the privilege. People use those lands and don't follow the rules, litter, beat the sh!t out of them and so on. It's a problem in every state. Years ago land owners were pretty good about letting people use their land for recreation but they can only take so many beer cans, fires, trash, and general abuse. I can name many places in this state where land owners just gave up and closed off their property and it's hard to blame them. Trump as his band of fvckups have a slash and burn mentality without regard for anything but money. (And porn stars.)


Edited by gooybob (04/06/18 02:47 PM)