The only agenda is to be proactive for wild steelhead and preserve angling opportunity for the "deemed healthy" streams before they fall victim to the trends of other rivers in the state.

There is still hatchery fish to harvest! Also the two year moratorium will give time and opportunity to come up with improved steelhead management plans.

Double Haul,

I was hopin' you was gonna be sayin' that we need more flyflingin' only spots. I was gonna challenge ya to a fight.



Instead you had to go and be reasonable.

Whattayasay we outlaw spey rods on any river that begins with "S"...

I guess then I'd have Homer and Sinktip after me...I could take either one of 'em

Later...

Todd

Todd


But you better have your twin with

You make a great point...we are all passionate about the sport and the fish. The sport and the fish are important to each and every one of us but in many many different ways. I hate to say it but I think the bickering that takes place is inevitable because of this.

...if only we could put our differances aside and put the fish first. But then again, like I just said, the fish are important to us in different ways...

What are we to do???

Todd

I'm waiting!

I just had to say it

H2H,

What....you waitin' to scrap?

If I wait until the afternoon, you'll be so tired from all that flailing I can probably keep casting while I whoop up on ya!

Todd

You got it sucker!

Hey Todd I got a new TuTu
It looks great on me!

Ok, Ok...

This is where I swallow my pride, Homer, and take one for the team.

Todd
Official silver medal winner in the scrap w/ Homer.

If I'm lucky enough to EVER become an "elite" fly fisherman - hope I don't loose my Chimacum upbringing!

Isn't that what distinguishes real NW fishermen from Eastcoasters? ... Real Fly FisherMEN, who cuss when it's appropriate, chew tobacco on on the water, and use spell check before posting.
- If Fly fishing in romeo's and a hand-me-down filson offends, maybe consider moving.

(Not you Dave ... I took the liberty of changing effete to elite, if I'm wrong, this post really looses it's puch)

Seriously, I can't see how a different way to catch fish can be bad! (I'm just learning) I encourage other gear fishemen to give fly fishing a try. I think most people just don't like to endure the learning curve and expense of a new sport. Don't know that I'll forgo one for the other though.

And Todd: I agree Posers are irritating anywhere: @ Tower Records, on the trail/campground, on the river, ski slopes, and so on, and so on.

KK, do you think it is a good idea to have a CnR fishery where bait is allowed?

What about barbed treble hooks, do you think they are a good idea in a CnR fishery?

So would you agree that if we are going to have a statewide WSR ruling then it should be a no bait single barbless hook fishery? Wouldn't that be in the best interest of the fish?

"Now, Bruce, would you support WSR if bait were allowed.or trebles? Turnabout is fair play..ya think?"

I think having a CnR fishery that allows the use of bait or anything more than a single barbless hook is not in the fishes best interest and should not be allowed.

Now a no bait, single barbless hook may not be fly fishing only but it is pretty close.

Ok you got me

Fly fishing and selective gear/single barbless hooks and no bait are not close and using bait in a CnR fishery might be a good idea.

"Bait in a CnR fishery may simply be the type of compromise that is needed to further the goal of increasing wild stocks."

Maybe until the next rule setting cycle. Then some groups may decide that a statewide bait ban is needed or a statewide single barbless hook fishery is need. All in the name of conservation of course, after all why in the world would you want to fish for wild steelhead using bait or treble hooks?

It's all a step in the right direction, right?

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I would like to re-phrase that so it more accuratley reflects what I think you're really saying.


"I would think fishing for some is better than none"

NOT!!

I my self like the Idea of fly fishing only waters especially if they C&R. I mean were in this state can you catch trophy size trout. The pressure on lakes and ponds that get stocked is just totally outrageous. I went to Blackmans Pond in Snohomish last week and there was like 50 boats, tubes, pontoon rafts out there and the docks were just literally covered with people. I said I am not going to fish that went to Pass Lake on 20 and ther was only like ten people out there it was great. Caught some very nice rainbows about 18 to 22 inchs and some pretty scrappy cutthroat. I wasnt disappointed I had to put them back Fishing doesnt always mean keep the fish to eat if you enjoy then practice catch and release.

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So am I uncivilized because I eat fish, or becase I dont agree with you? I just want to get it right, so I know how to respond.

A statewide mandatory wild steelhead CnR policy will definalty give some people more room to fish stlhd_dreaming.

It is nice having some selected waters set aside for that purpose, I also enjoy the solitude that it creates.....

"Bruce.....you and I both know, that WSR does not restrict one's opportunity to fish, just to kill."

Of course it doesn't but there's no denying that this type of regulation usually results in less Angler participation, just like stlhd_dreaming pointed out.

I guess it boils down to what your perception of opportunity is.