#444713 - 07/21/08 01:14 PM
Re: weighted cheaters for float fishing bait.
[Re: chrome demon]
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I never put any split shot above my swivel for this reason. It seems to create a dead spot when you have those light mouthing type bites. The current can carry your bait up slightly higher in the water column and when you have a bite it does not register to the float. I have seen my float actually rise up a little in the water before going under. It has happened enough times to make me change the sinker location. Just my observation.
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#444716 - 07/21/08 01:36 PM
Re: weighted cheaters for float fishing bait.
[Re: chrome demon]
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Fry
Registered: 11/27/07
Posts: 28
Loc: Woodinville
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try a pack of dead weights. I've used them w/ eggs and they work fine.
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#444717 - 07/21/08 01:44 PM
Re: weighted cheaters for float fishing bait.
[Re: laterun]
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King of the Beach
Registered: 12/11/02
Posts: 5206
Loc: Carkeek Park
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Just my opinion, but a couple things you might try.
Use a slip bobber with a shorter leader. You might also consider using a inline weight system with the slip bobber set-up. Fishing 10' deep water will be easier with a slip float.
Spread your splitshot out on your leader, rather then having them together.
A weighted cheater or dedfish drift weight will help keep your bait down. You can also very easily make your own.
Is your 10 lb mainline mono or braid?
Edited by stonefish (07/21/08 01:48 PM)
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#444721 - 07/21/08 02:06 PM
Re: weighted cheaters for float fishing bait.
[Re: stonefish]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 05/28/08
Posts: 350
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Thanks for the input so far. I will try the weighted cheaters that I bought a few weeks ago- since I already have them. and I have a slip float for deep pools which I can use. and will try moving the split shots as suggested. I use 10lb mono mainline, suffix elite on a spinning reel, 10'-6" rod rated for 6-10lbs.
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#444724 - 07/21/08 02:30 PM
Re: weighted cheaters for float fishing bait.
[Re: chrome demon]
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Spawner
Registered: 11/07/03
Posts: 652
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My only comment is don't listen to fishermen, who will (mistakenly) tell you that deadfish weights (or weighted cheaters) placed next to your hook are "illegal" under the non-buoyant lure restriction.
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#444734 - 07/21/08 03:00 PM
Re: weighted cheaters for float fishing bait.
[Re: cheapskate]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 03/30/08
Posts: 148
Loc: Washington
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My two favorite Cheater bait weight riggings are, cerise pink Cheater bait weight, shrimp tail and flame red Cheater bait weight, egg cluster. Peg the bait weight with a peice of theaded rubber band and use no extra weight above the bait weight. If more weight is needed for higher flows, use larger bait weight 0r jig and larger float. Depth more accurate, cast better and drifts more naturally with no extra weight above the bait weight or jig. Been rigging my float rigs this way for a while now with no extra weight above the bait weight or jig with good success so far.
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#444743 - 07/21/08 04:04 PM
Re: weighted cheaters for float fishing bait.
[Re: Gray Ghost]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 05/28/08
Posts: 350
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Thanks- I know that Outdoor Emporium sells the weighted cheaters, so I will give them a try. I have some flame colored which works well with cerise yarn and either SS or roe on the rivers I fish. The floating is really working out well so far for mid-late summer fishing when water is lower and slower. some of my favorite spots were tough to drift... super small pencil lead was not going anywhere.
OK, not to derail the discussion, but do you guys mend your drift with an open bail using a spinning reel? I was doing this allot this last outing and then the bobber goes down and what next? with the bail open, you can't really set the hook without taking line out. perhaps I should palm the spool? or do you turn the spool and hope that the fish is still there by the time you slam it?
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#444749 - 07/21/08 04:30 PM
Re: weighted cheaters for float fishing bait.
[Re: seastrike]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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If the float goes down when your bail is open, just keep your cool, reel up the slack, and set the hook. You'll find that the majority of the time, the fish will still be there. Don't listen to seastrike about the baitcaster thing. He's a crackhead.
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#444752 - 07/21/08 04:44 PM
Re: weighted cheaters for float fishing bait.
[Re: Dan S.]
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Hey Man....It's cool...
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#444755 - 07/21/08 05:02 PM
Re: weighted cheaters for float fishing bait.
[Re: seastrike]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 03/30/08
Posts: 148
Loc: Washington
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The only time I use a baitcasting reel for float fishing is for power float fishing during high flows using large bait weights and jigs. Any other time espesially summer I'am using a spinning reel with medium to light action 101/2' spinning rods. Some of the reasons I prefer a spinning real for float fishing medium to low river flows are, I can feed line out with an open bail as I'am mending at the same time, I can't do this with a baitcaster. It is alot easier to feed line out with open bail to extend the float drift at low river flows with a spinning reel. A spin outfit is needed to cast light line, small jig, small float set up. Always open and close your spinning bail manually, never by turning the handle. As far as setting the hook on a float take down free spooling line with an open bail, quickly close the bail manually and reel all slack line as fast as possible till tight to fish and set the hook quickly by swinging the rod low towards your bank. Can be a little tricky doing the spinning real open bail hook set, but can be done. You are going to miss a few float take downs, but that's part of the game.
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#444766 - 07/21/08 05:36 PM
Re: weighted cheaters for float fishing bait.
[Re: Jason Y]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 03/30/08
Posts: 148
Loc: Washington
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Bait weight and worm is a good combo also. Be sure to peg your bait weight so it dous'nt squish your threaded worm down the leader, I prefer a peice of threaded rubber band, done by folding over a peice of mono. to use as your threaded.
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