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#573263 - 01/16/10 08:24 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: Fast and Furious]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: Lead Bouncer
Saving steelhead, while throwing salmon under the bus, just to keep anglers on the columbia smiling is messed up. So, how many of you are still smiling? Protect hatchery springer harvest at all cost.


I see you've finally figured out what the CCA's position on the LCR will actually do...but for some reason, I suspect your almost utter lack of understanding of LCR fisheries means that you are both abhorrent of what is in the portion of your diatribe I quoted, and still support exactly the practice that will result in exactly that.

The rest of your post is good for entertainment value...kind of like midget tossing...devoid of anything useful, but laughable nonetheless.

Fish on...

Todd
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#573264 - 01/16/10 08:36 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: Todd]
boater Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 07/01/09
Posts: 1760
Loc: common sense ave.
leadbouncer, will you be at the sportsman show in the cca booth ?

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#573267 - 01/16/10 08:49 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: Jason Beezuz]
tinyelvis Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 313
Loc: WA
Originally Posted By: Jason B
Ugh.

See you all on the OP............


if it's gonna be that kinda party, i think i'm gonna stick my d**k in the mash potatoes


Edited by tinyelvis (01/16/10 11:44 PM)
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#573279 - 01/16/10 09:56 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: tinyelvis]
summerrun Offline
Dude, where's my boat?

Registered: 11/05/00
Posts: 2376
Loc: Seattle
Think I have enough miles to get back to the Situk. Time to save the money and vacation I would spend in WA and spend it where the fish are plentiful and wild.
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#573289 - 01/16/10 11:14 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: summerrun]
CraigO Offline
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Registered: 03/30/02
Posts: 1409
Loc: Lake Stevens
We found one today on the Skagit, a lot of work but nice to bring a smaller nate to hand. May not get up there again this season, spectacular day in the way of views. This my buddy from work and hid first Skagit Steelhead.



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#573292 - 01/16/10 11:46 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: CraigO]
tinyelvis Offline
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Posts: 313
Loc: WA
well done! Where abouts were you fishing? I'm thinking about hittin the skag tomorrow...
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#573293 - 01/16/10 11:53 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: tinyelvis]
Lucky Louie Offline
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Registered: 11/30/09
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Originally Posted By: tinyelvis
well done! Where abouts were you fishing? I'm thinking about hittin the skag tomorrow...



Have you ever fished any Canadian rivers? Pretty close from Whatcom county.
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#573294 - 01/16/10 11:58 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: Lucky Louie]
DougT Offline
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Registered: 05/28/09
Posts: 109
Nice, Craig. His first steelhead?!

I've been looking forward to spring up there since i drove away from the steelhead park the last time last year...

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#573302 - 01/17/10 12:45 AM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: DougT]
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#573307 - 01/17/10 01:40 AM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: okiedude]
mitch184 Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 02/02/05
Posts: 337
Loc: Lake Stevens
Just absolutely kills me. When I heard this I've actually asked myself why should I keep fishing. Only to be dissappointed more each season. This hit kills me. And I'm with okiedude, if i see nets in the river this spring.... things will happen.

Even those who don't fish up this way should be pissed. Because guess what, you're getting a lot of new neighbors on your local coastal stream.
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#573310 - 01/17/10 02:32 AM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: CraigO]
Keta Offline
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Registered: 03/05/00
Posts: 1092
I don't get it. All they have to do is lower the escapement goal and everyone can keep fishing.

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#573316 - 01/17/10 09:58 AM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: Lucky Louie]
tinyelvis Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 313
Loc: WA
Originally Posted By: Lucky Louie
Originally Posted By: tinyelvis
well done! Where abouts were you fishing? I'm thinking about hittin the skag tomorrow...



Have you ever fished any Canadian rivers? Pretty close from Whatcom county.


Just the Vedder, but that's blown pretty bad right now...
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#573337 - 01/17/10 01:22 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: tinyelvis]
Ikissmykiss Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 03/01/03
Posts: 1260
Loc: Snohomish County
You certainly have a way with words Joe....well put.

Although it's a favorite fishery for many of us, including Joe, the closure is obviously much needed and has been a long time coming.

An escapement goal of 6000 fish for the Skagit is preposterous to begin with. Last years prediction of 6,100 fish allowed us to fish over 'em. 100 fish over? Gimmee a break! The actual escapement, from what I heard, was close to 2500 fish.

On a system where HARVEST used to exceed 15,000 fish on average years, and 20,000 on good years? Hmmmmm.....

Whether or not the closure will improve future runs remains to be seen, but at least it's a start.

Ike

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#573367 - 01/17/10 02:43 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: Ikissmykiss]
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Registered: 03/27/09
Posts: 2256
I agree with giving the Skagit/Sauk or any other rivers for that matter a rest in hopes that the runs will rebuild themselves. For me it's not a fear of not having the chance to fish but a real fear of not ever having the chance again! Seems that here in Washington we allow the runs to go into the tank and then shut them down for good instead of monitoring them and taking precautionary actions before the fact.

Has anyone ever entertained the thought of a river gaurdian program such as been used on the Dean in BC? If WDFW couldn't afford it I'm certain that some of us care enough about these rivers to donate some time. Sure it would be complicated to organize a program like this but would it be worth it?
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#573370 - 01/17/10 02:51 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: Bantam]
doc Offline
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Loc: Tacoma
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#573387 - 01/17/10 05:00 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: mitch184]
Eric Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3513
Quote:
Even those who don't fish up this way should be pissed. Because guess what, you're getting a lot of new neighbors on your local coastal stream.


Tell me something I don't know.....this isn't groundbreaking news.

Sorry, My aggitation isn't directed at you personally, just the situation. frown

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#573446 - 01/17/10 09:25 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: Keta]
Double Haul Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 1558
Loc: Wherever I can swing for wild ...
Originally Posted By: Keta
I don't get it. All they have to do is lower the escapement goal and everyone can keep fishing.


This is just plain being sarcastic, right?

If so I truly get your point

If not... beathead


Edited by Double Haul (01/17/10 09:26 PM)
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#573452 - 01/17/10 09:41 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: Double Haul]
Carcassman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7428
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Not really. I expect to see some escapement goals lowered in the next few months. WDFW's been doing it for ages.

Back in the 70s they actually claimed that they reversed a downward trend in some Puget Sound Chinook stocks by lowering the goals. Back then, they could hit the lower goals!

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#573469 - 01/17/10 11:40 PM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: Carcassman]
SkykomishSunrise Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 02/03/09
Posts: 233
I fished a few of my favorite runs on the Sauk today. The water looked nice, and it was good to be out on the river again. However, I couldn't help but to feel as if I was making one last visit to a relative that is about to die.
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#573478 - 01/18/10 12:25 AM Re: Bad News Sauk & Skagit [Re: Keta]
The Catcherman Offline
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Registered: 06/24/99
Posts: 1246
Loc: Ellensburg, WA
Originally Posted By: Keta
I don't get it. All they have to do is lower the escapement goal and everyone can keep fishing.


That has already been done. At what point do you stop? When there are none left? I'm with Double Haul on this one; I can appreciate sarcasm if that is the case. If not... doh
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