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#664651 - 02/21/11 12:29 AM Fish Skulls
ColeyG Offline
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Has anyone been tying with these yet?

http://flymenfishingcompany.org/products/fish-skull/

I picked up a pack at a local store last week and worked them into a spring favorite, the venerable Dolly Lama.

I must say, they cut my tying time about in half over using a cone head, and I don't mind the way they look either. Curious if anyone has tried them in other applications.





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#664664 - 02/21/11 12:54 AM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: ColeyG]
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#664672 - 02/21/11 02:26 AM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: cobble cruiser]
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Are you lost?
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#664687 - 02/21/11 11:32 AM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: ColeyG]
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You will be proud of me coley. I'm making a plan to get down to Carnation to the "River Run" fly shop to take switch lessons. Look out next fall. No, I mean seriously....look out! eek
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#664714 - 02/21/11 12:47 PM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: cobble cruiser]
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I haven't tried them, mainly because they are expensive compared to cone heads. I use them just for the added weight and action on steelhead attractor flies. I think the eyes on them are a good addition to bait fish patterns. Salt water anglers swear that flies with eyes draw more strikes than those without. Your rabbit Clouser with fish skull eyes should be pretty durable for toothy critters.

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#664723 - 02/21/11 01:37 PM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: Salmo g.]
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+1 on the cost. Definitely a significant increase over coneheads of the same size/weight.

I haven't played around with them enough to know, but it seems like the design of the head will really limit options for collars and finishing the fly. The slots in the metal seem like they will make it difficult to add a few turns of something like marabou or schlappen, and/or dubbing. Even if it works, the look will still be fairly linear.

Danny, taking fly fishing lessons? They must be playing hockey in hell.

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#664842 - 02/21/11 11:10 PM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: cobble cruiser]
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Originally Posted By: cobble cruiser
You will be proud of me coley. I'm making a plan to get down to Carnation to the "River Run" fly shop to take switch lessons. Look out next fall. No, I mean seriously....look out! eek


Holly cow! Am I reading this right?
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#664862 - 02/22/11 12:09 AM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: SRoffe]
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Yeah, I can see it already, Danny trying to huck a 12 ball slinky and pink worm with a 9wt.
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#664872 - 02/22/11 12:38 AM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: ColeyG]
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If he hadn't sold his 9wt to me he could try.
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#664879 - 02/22/11 01:05 AM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: SRoffe]
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Crap! Good point. But I'm goin for the looooong rod buddy. Todd's the 12 ball slinky guy. I only use 5 to 7 balls most of the time. Wait....Let me start over. My slinkies just generally run lighter and most of the time I like using lead if I can get away with it. smile

You'll see. I am determined to try it for awhile. Gotta find out if I likey ya know! grin
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#664892 - 02/22/11 01:35 AM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: cobble cruiser]
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I tried this spey casting a couple times. I just need to grab a rod and go to a bar all by my self, (gravel bar, not tavern) and practice, practice practice. Then afterward go to the bar (tavern, not gravel bar) and enjoy a nice pint of bitter.

Oh, so that I don't hijack this thread Coley, No. I have never tried nor used any flies tied with the fish skull heads. They look nice though. I bet Danny and I would have them hanging off our ears lobes in no time. Not sure who would hook who.
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#664895 - 02/22/11 01:45 AM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: SRoffe]
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Originally Posted By: Sam Roffe
I tried this spey casting a couple times. I just need to grab a rod and go to a bar all by my self, (gravel bar, not tavern) and practice, practice practice. Then afterward go to the bar (tavern, not gravel bar) and enjoy a nice pint of bitter.

Oh, so that I don't hijack this thread Coley, No. I have never tried nor used any flies tied with the fish skull heads. They look nice though. I bet Danny and I would have them hanging off our ears lobes in no time. Not sure who would hook who.


Whoa. Easy there fella. For the record, nothing hangs off the ear lobes. thumbs
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#664896 - 02/22/11 01:48 AM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: cobble cruiser]
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Originally Posted By: cobble cruiser
Originally Posted By: Sam Roffe
I tried this spey casting a couple times. I just need to grab a rod and go to a bar all by my self, (gravel bar, not tavern) and practice, practice practice. Then afterward go to the bar (tavern, not gravel bar) and enjoy a nice pint of bitter.

Oh, so that I don't hijack this thread Coley, No. I have never tried nor used any flies tied with the fish skull heads. They look nice though. I bet Danny and I would have them hanging off our ears lobes in no time. Not sure who would hook who.


Whoa. Easy there fella. For the record, nothing hangs off the ear lobes. thumbs


Barbless hooks then.
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#664903 - 02/22/11 02:40 AM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: SRoffe]
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Originally Posted By: Sam Roffe
I tried this spey casting a couple times. I just need to grab a rod and go to a bar all by my self, (gravel bar, not tavern) and practice, practice practice.


That is the great thing about flyfishing for steelhead. Pick a crappy piece of water to "practice on" and you will stand about the same chance of hooking a fish as the guys taking it seriously smile

Once you have it down, keep an eye out for the classic swing water, otherwise known as the long, featureless, knee to waist deep "runs" that one would usually float by without fishing.

No worries about the thread deviation, once Danny showed up, I knew things were going to get messy.
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#664942 - 02/22/11 11:28 AM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: ColeyG]
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Dirty gear chuckers. beer

Oh yeah, back to fish skulls. grin


Edited by cobble cruiser (02/22/11 11:28 AM)
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#664972 - 02/22/11 12:40 PM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: cobble cruiser]
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Yes, long featureless gravel bars are perfect for fly fishing. Heck, they're perfect for everybody (else) to fish. And it's imperative to fish pretty $14 flies from April Volkey's web site, cuz steelhead never eat ugly flies. I add that because I read posts from a couple experienced steelheaders who are asserting that steelhead like different colors on different rivers. I've only fished for steelhead on 30 or 40 or maybe 50 rivers, so I'm probably not qualified to call [censored] on that.

Meanwhile, good for Danny for seeking enlightenment. Spey casting, like fly casting, is something fun to do between bites, which according to Coley is a long, long time. And he's right.

Meanwhile, I wish I had a few of those fish skull clousers to take to Mexico next week. I put those plastic stick-on eyes on dumbell weighted clousers, but they sometimes fall off.

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#665011 - 02/22/11 01:58 PM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: Salmo g.]
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Those look killer, Coley. I've never even heard of the "Fish Skulls" but I'd always rather fish baitfish patterns with eyes than without.

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#665060 - 02/22/11 04:07 PM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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Salmo, ifn you think the rabbit versions would suit your needs, I would be happy to send you a handful for product testing purposes smile Be warned, they are big, and heavy!

Lemme know.
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#665088 - 02/22/11 06:20 PM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: ColeyG]
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Only if they arrive by Saturday's mail. Flight leaves at 7:00 Sunday. Thanks Coley, but I have a few smaller clousers with the regular dumbell eyes. I just got a 10 wt with a Tarpon line; would that throw the fish skulls?

Sg

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#665129 - 02/22/11 08:08 PM Re: Fish Skulls [Re: ]
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PM me your address. If they go out tomorrow, should be there by Fri no problem. I need photos of a few tropical Dolly Lama eaters for a project I am working on.

I want to see how many species of fish will eat that fly, and then put together a photo essay detailing it, just for fun. I think I am up to 11 or 12 species so far, 14 if you count birds smile
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