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#809000 - 12/21/12 09:19 AM Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod
Jason Beezy Offline
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Registered: 11/20/08
Posts: 1326
Loc: Bellingham
My Lamiglas Dave Vedder 10.5' 8-12 has lost it's tip eye insert so now the eye is just a metal ring. I noticed this when my braid started going furry on me.

Is there anything I can do?

Thank in advance!

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#809001 - 12/21/12 09:26 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Jason Beezy]
Castingpearls Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 03/26/08
Posts: 1168
Loc: The Rock
You can change out the tip top.

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#809005 - 12/21/12 09:34 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Castingpearls]
Steelspanker Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 11/11/05
Posts: 1900
Loc: Snoho county
And if you don't want to hunt around for the right tip top size, just bring the rod down to any decent tackle shop (especially ones that build rods like Greg's) and they will replace the tip top it in 5 minutes for about 6 bucks.

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#809009 - 12/21/12 09:41 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Steelspanker]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
Hippie

Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4239
Loc: B'ham
Just the tip, just for a second.

I have a Vedder rod as well and love it. Those guides are SOFT though.

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#809013 - 12/21/12 09:52 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Salmo g. Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 10995
Jason, it's a super easy DIY job for anyone with fewer than 10 thumbs. The hardest part might be finding a tip top guide in B'ham that fits your rod. You should be able to look up that rod blank on Lamiglas' website to find the tip diameter size. FYI, it's not a bad idea to keep a few tip tops around the house in common sizes from 4.5 to 6 or 6.5/64ths".

Sg

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#809024 - 12/21/12 10:29 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Salmo g.]
OceanSun Offline
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Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 974
Loc: Kirkland
Ferrel cement, a lighter, and extra tip top is standard in my tackle bag. Worth carrying an extra that is a size or two too large as well so you can keep fishing after your buddy breaks the top off your rod down a foot or two where your regular tip top is too small. The ferrel cement softens to glue-like consistency when heated with the lighter and hardens when cool.

Here's a quick link for those who have never done it before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUn0SRZT5_0
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#809045 - 12/21/12 11:37 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
salmosalar Offline
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Registered: 07/05/05
Posts: 1869
Loc: bellingham
Originally Posted By: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D
Just the tip, just for a second.

I have a Vedder rod as well and love it. Those guides are SOFT though.


"slippin' it by the panties"

Both Yeagers and Mayyberrry's have tip tops.

Go Sox,
cds
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#809049 - 12/21/12 11:41 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: salmosalar]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
Hippie

Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4239
Loc: B'ham
Apparently, Salmo G assumes we still ride in horse drawn carriages up here. We gots us a water treatment plant and purty lights on the street even!




And rod tips.

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#809078 - 12/21/12 01:48 PM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
DrifterWA Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 3472
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
I'd call Lamiglas ..... Give them the rod number, they can fix you up.

Like others have said, a couple of extras tips is good to have and I like the different size bit. I bought some ferrel cement, 40+ years ago...still have the original stick.

Good luck...
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#809083 - 12/21/12 02:17 PM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: DrifterWA]
coho1234 Offline
Fry

Registered: 04/29/06
Posts: 27
Loc: Surrey, B.C.
I have the exact same rod and did the exact same thing a week ago. Wow, small world. Anyways, my local tackle shop stocks tip tops in all sizes. That particular tip seems to be a generic hardloy kind. Since you are using braid, I recommend that you find a SIC (Silicon Carbide) Tip that matches with it. Otherwise the braid may wear a groove in the eyelet and you run the risk of line breakage when you least expect it.

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#809163 - 12/21/12 06:27 PM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: coho1234]
Salmo g. Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 10995
AP,

Naw, just that I keep hearing that all the shops in B'man have closed up. Maybe that was just fly shops. Now move along son, and don't bogart that joint, my friend . . .

Sg

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#809165 - 12/21/12 06:38 PM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Jason Beezy]
cobble cruiser Offline
~B-F-D~

Registered: 03/27/09
Posts: 2003
Originally Posted By: Jason Beezy
My Lamiglas Dave Vedder 10.5' 8-12 has lost it's tip eye insert so now the eye is just a metal ring. I noticed this when my braid started going furry on me.

Is there anything I can do?

Thank in advance!


That's not the only Vedder model thats missing an eye! thumbs banana


Edited by cobble cruiser (12/21/12 06:39 PM)
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#809171 - 12/21/12 06:49 PM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: cobble cruiser]
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8411
Loc: West Duvall
Danny,


You keep up this schizzle I'm gonna sic my cow on ya!
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#809178 - 12/21/12 07:06 PM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Posts: 2003
Yes sir.
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#809191 - 12/21/12 07:25 PM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Jason Beezy]
Direct-Drive Offline
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Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 5902
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: Jason Beezy
My Lamiglas Dave Vedder 10.5' 8-12 has lost it's tip eye insert so now the eye is just a metal ring. I noticed this when my braid started going furry on me.

Is there anything I can do?

Thank in advance!

I would have Dave fix it.
Tell him you want a Fuji SiC tip top.
He will probably want to make good on the line as well.



And since it's Christmas time, he may just hand you a brand new backup rod, some floats and jigs.
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#809297 - 12/22/12 07:08 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Direct-Drive]
Dave Vedder Offline
Reverend Tarpones

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8411
Loc: West Duvall
No problem. bring it over. I have a bit of duct tape left from my Christmas wrapping. You bring the beer.
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#809316 - 12/22/12 08:02 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Dave Vedder]
Jason Beezy Offline
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Registered: 11/20/08
Posts: 1326
Loc: Bellingham
Thanks for the replies everyone.

So a rod tip guide is called a tip top? Got you.

I have replaced a bunch for those when I broke a tip off a rod. That is easy.

Next, all the shops I have been to want to cut the tip off the rod to replace the tip top. NO THANKS.

So a good shop can get the tip top off without cutting the rod blank?

It is funny because this is my first higher end gear rod after years with cheaper Shimano, Berkley, Eagle Claw and more, and this is the first time anything like this has ever happened.

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#809319 - 12/22/12 08:05 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Jason Beezy]
Todd Offline
Bumpin the 6X9's

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 21056
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Hold a lighter under the tip top and the glue will melt...and you'll have it off in about two seconds after that. Melt a little bit of new glue into the new tip, slip it on and make sure it is on straight, and in about ten seconds you'll be done.

Fish on...

Todd

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#809323 - 12/22/12 08:26 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Todd]
Jerry Garcia Offline

River Nutrients

Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 8357
Loc: everett
Originally Posted By: Todd
Hold a lighter under the tip top and the glue will melt...and you'll have it off in about two seconds after that. Melt a little bit of new glue into the new tip, slip it on and make sure it is on straight, and in about ten seconds you'll be done.

Fish on...

Todd


Use pliers as the tip top will be hot.
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#809338 - 12/22/12 08:56 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Dave Vedder]
Direct-Drive Offline
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Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 5902
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: Dave Vedder
No problem. bring it over. I have a bit of duct tape left from my Christmas wrapping. You bring the beer.


rofl
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#809349 - 12/22/12 09:11 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Jason Beezy]
Direct-Drive Offline
ExtenZe Field Tester

Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 5902
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: Jason Beezy

Next, all the shops I have been to want to cut the tip off the rod to replace the tip top. NO THANKS.

Run, don't walk away from those shops.

As mentioned, tip tops are installed with heat-activated glue if done correctly.
The original hot melt glue which is called ferrule cement in the rod building world.

Once you get the old tip top off, scrape any glue residue off the blank with a fingernail.
Then "dry fit" your chosen tip top replacement to verify correct tube size.
No massive wobble, no super tight....you're looking for an easy fit with a bit of room for the glue.

If the tube is large enough in diameter, you can cut a sliver of ferrule cement and drop it into the tube.
Heat the tube which then melts the glue and install.

With smaller tubes, heat the end of the glue stick and apply the molten glue to the rod tip evenly around the tip top area.
Then heat the tip top tube and install.
Leather or a thick glove will provide good control as you dial in proper alignment with the other guides.
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#809375 - 12/22/12 10:15 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: ]
Direct-Drive Offline
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Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 5902
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: avidangler
I was told to just use super glue when applying a new rod tip. This was from a reputable fishing rod company. Lo and behold it works

Good luck if you have to replace it.
Same goes for epoxy.

There is a reason the ancient tech ferrule cement is still used for the tip top.
Good idea to not wrap/finish at the tip top as well.
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#809395 - 12/22/12 11:08 AM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: Direct-Drive]
DrifterWA Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 3472
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
Originally Posted By: Direct-Drive
Originally Posted By: avidangler
I was told to just use super glue when applying a new rod tip. This was from a reputable fishing rod company. Lo and behold it works

Good luck if you have to replace it.
Same goes for epoxy.

There is a reason the ancient tech ferrule cement is still used for the tip top.
Good idea to not wrap/finish at the tip top as well.



+1 to these comments.....
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#809630 - 12/22/12 08:51 PM Re: Help! Lost Tip Eye Insert On Fav Lamiglas Rod [Re: DrifterWA]
Jason Beezy Offline
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Registered: 11/20/08
Posts: 1326
Loc: Bellingham
Thanks to everyone especially Todd and Direct-Drive.

I had no idea how easy it would be to remove the tip-top from this rod. I thought removing the tip-top would be the hard part but it sounds like the whole thing is easy.

Happy holidays to all!

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