Bobrr you either work for a government agency or are the most uninformed person posting on PP. WDF&W is at the least totally inept, at the worse totally corrupt. Sure many decent folks work for WDFW but it is a system and you toe the company line or bad things happen. The culture of WDFW has withstood directors, citizens, and the commission as it resisted change and allowed every element of natural resources under its prevue to crash. Your defending the undefendable.