Not sure when sub legals called "shakers" became an issue? Seems just recently over the last few years. Years ago we would encounter all kinds of them. Didn't seem to be a problem then? They were a bother, so we changed our gear to reduce catching them. It is, and has always been an issue. What's different now? Other than less fish period? Or, the co-managers influence? WDFW, show us the evidence that this new tool to manage the recs off the water is a viable tool for the fish? Or, a great tool for the tribes to increase there percentage of the catch? Especially with chinook plants increasing.