I've used the Vision hooks for over a year now with no probs - they are a good hook in both the red and the non-painted alloy (I haven't used the black ones yet). I use the 1/0's for steelhead, 2/0's for silvers, and both 4/0 and 5/0 for Kings. I haven't broken one yet. I did have 2 Vision snapswivels break at the wire snap holder on big silvers; but they were a size too small for the target fish. No probs with the next size up. Gamis are good hooks too. But I have had the paint come off as mentioned above. The Owner hooks are great but they are very expensive.

RT