aunty em ill ask you again. where did I condone violence against anyone? saying to someone that was condoning violence against protestors " ill give you $2,000 to back up what you are saying " is not condoning violence. mods pleeze kick off chappy... he's liberal... give me a break. and the way this got started was from a guy on the chehalis that pulled a gun on me for asking him to remove three of his four plunking rods. whats the problem with asking peoiple to follow the rules. cowlitzfisherman made a very unecessary attack on me personally for that post and I stated two options that are much more appropriate for disagreements. what was the problem with that? now the only people you will find in this debate that condoned violence against anyone are yourself with your "i have more calibers than brains " comments and the folks that think it is ok to go around punching protestors. I think it is interesting that you are so sensitive to others fabricating your views , but you seem to fabricate mine all the time. what gives? the blocks you quoted were not an advocation of violence against anyone! besides boxing is not violence. its an art. but going around punching protestors is not only violence... it is doing the terrorists job for them.

on a side note. i am very happy that you are not in favor of opening up ANWR. neither am I. in fact I dont understand the statement that the iraqi oil belongs to he iraqi people either. does that not reek of socialism? how the resources beliong to the people and all. why is it that the US oil does not belong to the US people. these leaders of our are taking some strange turns. in fact i might have to write a lil post about that. if no one minds just a bit more non fishing talk! its kinda funny how everyone says this is a fishing board (not politics)when we all agree on almost anything directly related to fishing! could you imagine us sitting around debating if pink worms really work? now that would be silly. we only get into good fiery debates on fishing politics and more peripheral fishing topics. but we should all know that no matter how much we disagree with other board members. we all have something in common...fishing. i think that commonality should give us all greater ability to listen to those with completely opposing views, and not less ability. i believe in attacking ideas and not people but when i repededly get attacked personally by those whom are not informed enough to attack the idea then it becomes more likely that I will respond in kind. hey i dint engage in a pre-emptive attack did I? I have had anti-war friends beaten up lately and I wrote earlier that someone tagged my truck(my business truck, I am a roofing contractor) with the words "traitor" now I ask you in all seriouseness. do you care at all about the violence inflicted upon these people or the destruction of my property or do you only disagree with violence against people that you agree with?