Rory,

"Actually most conservatives (those people in the red states or Jesusland) messure domestic policy success by how many able bodied people that are liberated from relying on public assistance"

Undoubtedly true that they feel this way, but undoubtedly true that they are also lagging well behind the "blue" states in actually getting off of said assistance...the blue states put far more into the system than they get back, and the red states take far more out than they put in.

"the liberal view of domestic policy which messures it's success by ever increasing the number of people who are dependant on public assistance."

This comment, of course, just exposes you as the zealot you are, rather than any actual knowledge or numbers, as it is completely made up out of thin air.

Fish on...

Todd
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