anyone else sensing some defensiveness from the kid....?

...hmmm, methinks one doth protesteth too much.

Any business man that would knowingly allow inferior products onto the market does not deserve to be in business, period....and yes, the original owners acknowledged via a previous thread on this very same subject that there was a problem and they continued to supply the market with said inferior hooks.

IMO, the 'new owners' would be well served to change the name of the product line. There are a LOT of people out there that think Vision hooks are total garbage...IMO, they'd be well served to take every conceivable measure to change that perception if they ever plan on reclaiming their once formidable market share.

Word of mouth is a bitch ain't it?

My guess here Vince is that some people here know in advance what your testing will show and are trying to impune the results of those tests before you even do them. I personally hope you are able to follow through....

Eric